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**amazinspiderman** · 12-10-2006, 10:47 AM

Hey,
I have a question about my cycle, i'm not new to this but i'm also not an expert like some of you guys here, so pls bare with me.

I'm 23, i live in Portugal and i've been bodybuilding since i was 18, my first cycle was at te age of 21 wich consisted only on deca and winstrol , later i tryed other stuff but i always kept it simple like test prop, winstrol, deca d-bol, etc
I was now thinking, for my 5th cycle, of doing Trenbolone Acetate and i was thinking of stacking it with andropen but i've been hering a lot of horror stories about tren + test so i's like to hear your input on this.

Tkx, and sry if i broke some rule

**std4** · 12-10-2006, 12:35 PM

what were the gains from your first cycle(deca and winstrol ) and how long was it.

i have not heard anything bad about stacking tren with test

**amazinspiderman** · 12-10-2006, 01:00 PM

Before i say my gains keep in mind that i have a very high metabolism and here in Portugal we don't have the same size/build you have in the U.S.
So i started at 18 like i said with 110lbs and 5feet 75, i never got taller so i think that's it for me

I trained for 2 years before trying AAS and was able to reach 130lbs, make note that even eating a lot and even after cycling my body fat is never higher than 7% i don't know why but i just can't build fat!
After the 1st cycle i was able to put on 22lbs i think, i'm doing the conversion of kg to lbs so it might not be too exact.
After some more years of training and cycling i was at 170lbs then unfortunetly i broke my finger and now i'm back at 145lbs.

I just read about tren with 1 test not a lend of 5 tests so i'd like to hear your opinions on stacking the 2.

Tkx

**GHO5T** · 12-10-2006, 01:18 PM

i believe that you should fill out more naturally before you try another cycle JMO, but if you are keen of using tren

test prop 100mg/ed
tren ace 100mg/ed

thats a good combo, it would be more helpful if you post the kind of cycle you want to run (gear, dosage, duration) and we can further tweak or critique it

**amazinspiderman** · 12-10-2006, 01:24 PM

Believe me a tried to put on more weight without aiding if AAS but i really can't, probably my diet is not as good as it should or maybe it's my metabolism, i don't know.

From what i've read i should put some test with the tren so it would look something like this

Test ace 75mg/eod or 75mg/ed
Andropen 275mg/week or 550mg/week

It's going to be a 8week cycle

This is what i'm thinking feel free to point some holes in it