I'm on my second cycle, 500mg test E/wk and 40mg paper t-bol/ED. I have been on almost two weeks and haven't seen any effects from the t-bol yet, should I up the dose to 60mg/ED or does it normally take some time to kick in? Thanks alot.
I'm on my second cycle, 500mg test E/wk and 40mg paper t-bol/ED. I have been on almost two weeks and haven't seen any effects from the t-bol yet, should I up the dose to 60mg/ED or does it normally take some time to kick in? Thanks alot.
Stats? Weight, height, cycle history?
That tbol dose might be low, that is why I am asking.
Sorry, my second cycle, first being Test E only at 400mg/week for 9 weeks, gained 25 lbs. and kept it all. Currently 5'l0" 210, around 15% bf.Originally Posted by king6
Last edited by samcam; 12-10-2006 at 12:00 PM.
Yeah bro, at 210, 40mg seems awful low. I would consider bumping it up to 60, maybe even 80, but I would wait for other opinions on that. Tbol is chemically similar to dbol, and dbol takes up to 10 days to see effects, and then most people put on 4 pounds a week, depending on different factors.Originally Posted by samcam
I was thinking the same thing myself, I thought I would start low to see how I would react, because on 400mg test a week I blew up so I thought I was a light weight, lol, I'll bump it up to 20mg 3x a day and see what happens, thanks.Originally Posted by king6
Good luck. How much weight did you put on with your first test cycle?
25lbs., a bit more fat than I wanted, but was very happy with my gains. I didn't lose any weight or strength even 12 weeks after the cycle so I consider that a huge success!Originally Posted by king6
Good to know, I will be doing the same cycle but @ 500/mg, and with a dbol kickstart. Looking forward to similar gains.Originally Posted by samcam
The most important thing to concentrate on is eating, eating, eating. When my gains came to a halt at about week 8, I was force feeding myself around 5000 kcal a day, I was almost puking from so much food, this time around I am going to keep it between 4000-4500 for 6-8 weeks then taper into a cutting cycle for the remaining 8 weeks and also throw in some winny @ 40-60mg/ED for 5 weeks and see how it goes, good luck on your cycle.Originally Posted by king6
Bro you wont see shiz from the Tbol untill week 3 or 4. And at 40 mg/ed thats not gonna do a lot. I would up the Tbol to 60 mg/ed until week 6 and then up to 80 mg/ed for week 7 and 8.
btw, check out my cycle journal. I have ran 2 cycles with tbol.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=270501
if its b*d tbol prepare to be disappointed..
No......I heard the whole story though, I'm using paper from a cat I know.Originally Posted by 305GUY
Before I even started this cycle I heard some say it only takes a few days and others say a few weeks. My last cycle the test kicked in around the end of week three and if the t-bol kicks in then too, I'm in for a good ride! I am starting 20mg 3x a day starting today and see what happens. I am only going to run it for 5 weeks total because I am going to start winny at week 11, so I will have a nice long break between orals. Nice log btw.Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
I wouldnt expect anything much from only 5 weeks on tbol. The 5th week is just about when tbol really starts peaking and you wont want to cut it short. Trust me, Ive ran it 2x. Ask Swifto (mod) if you need additional opinions on the matter.Originally Posted by samcam
In addition, Id take all your tbol at the same time. It will build up faster in your system and its very mild so you wont deal with any sides except some gas, lol, but that will happen anyway.
Funny, this "cat" guy....Originally Posted by samcam
it kicked in 2.5 weeks in for me
i started at 40mg and kick in about a week and a half. at the 2nd week i up it to 60mg on week four i up it to 80mg. ran it for 5wks and it was the B*d brand and it was amazing... the only down side was way to much gas and slight haedachs..
I thought I'd update this. I just ended week 4, up 17 lbs., from 205 to 222 everything looking and feeling great! I think I will continue with 60mg/ED for one more week then up it to 80mg/ED for the final two weeks, week 6 and 7, then slowly transition into a cut for the remaining 10 weeks or so. The back pumps have been intense, but managable. In the gym pumps have been incredible, I have noticed alot of joint pain but I think that is just from pushing myself and I have been pushing myself to the absolute limit!
I have two sets of clothes, bulking and cutting, and my bulking clothes are getting too tight, lol. I have relatives up for the holidays and they are like holy shi*!! I will keep this updated, thanks for the comments!
I like Tbol alot and started on 40mg/ED. Run it for 2-3 weeks and didnt feel much at all. Slight gaseous stomach. Upped it to 60mg/ED for another 3-4 weeks and liked it. Upped it again for another 3 weeks at 80mg/ED and that, I feel, is the dose for me comparing gains/sides.
I've already been experiencing the stomach gas and let me tell you those are some of the stinkiest farts I've ever encountered, they rank right up there with liver tab farts.Originally Posted by Swifto
jump to 80mg..
Has anyone ever tried to use something like Gas-X with T-Bol?Originally Posted by samcam
I went on a tbol only cycle and after the 1st week of 60mg i upped it to 80mg ED so... i guess it all depends on whether ur willing to risk it. (i was only 150lbs and it was my 1st cycle)
Tbol dosent kick in till week 3 really and by 4 you can REALLY feel it. Just takes a while. Also I would up the dose a little ... maybe 60mg.. i Loved 80 though
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