I am wanting to do an oral only cycle. Im not scared of needles or anything like that, im just in a weird spot where tabs only would be great. I was wanting to do some a-50s along with something else, any and all advice would be appreciated..![]()
I am wanting to do an oral only cycle. Im not scared of needles or anything like that, im just in a weird spot where tabs only would be great. I was wanting to do some a-50s along with something else, any and all advice would be appreciated..![]()
Originally Posted by LennyB
Research into the down-sides of Orals then make a decision bro!!
The main orals are:
Dianabol
Anadrol (A-50's)
Andriol
Halotestin
Primobolan
Winstrol/Stanazolol
As far as I'm aware, Andriol is considered to be the "safest" in respect of not harming your liver but you do gota swallow a lot of caps!!
A-50's are fairly toxic to the liver if not done right, Dianabol is often the beginners choice due to its relative ease of use and low cost. But seriously read, read and read again the profiles of each, look in old posts and then make a decision!!
Good luck whichever way you go!!
try d-bol and see how you like it
if you are not scared of needles there is no need for orals IMO
I hope that's not Mom & Dad's house.Originally Posted by LennyB
What are your stats and goals?
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ditto^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
it depends on your goals.. i never ran a dbol or anadrol cycle alone, but i have run an anavar cycle alone, with GREAT success.. I say try it out for yourslef, bc on your you are just getting opinions on here, no CONCLUSIVE REAL data.. Is anadrol the BEST cycle- NO.. but hey try it and see..
if ur set on an oral only cycle i'd hit up var, tbol, or dbol personally. i wouldnt run halo as its not a mass drug, winny alone might be ok but prolly not what ur going for. dont for get PCT and once u know what ur goals are it will be easier to figure out what u should use....
I have used d bol before and really liked it. my goals are mostly to get cut and maybe keep 10 lbs after its all said and done... My first cycle was test e and d bol..
Originally Posted by LennyB
im a firm believer in experimenting and seeing how you will react to different aas, since everyone will react differently to different kinds of aas (type of gear, dosages, durations, combinations)
but for an oral only cycle all i can say is it will be a waste of money and gear so with that said an oral only cycle IMO is a![]()
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An Oral-Turinabol only is a good oral aas. Its mild and you'll keep your gains.
Run it for 6-8 weeks @ 60 mg/ed. I did this and gained about 13 pounds.
ghost i've asked u for advice on my upcoming cycle and respect all that u say. but im curious why you say an oral only is bad? i mean as a rule u hear this from the god awful parrots on this board "no test no cycle" which is stupid. oral cycles work they just dont put on AS much as an injectable cycle. but nonetheless an oral cycle will build muscle. everyone says you lose all ur "gains" on a dbol only cycle but i dont consider the 10lbs of water u lose to be gains so if you put on 15lbs on a dbol only cycle and u keep 5 after 4-6 weeks i think u did alright....that 5lbs is obviously muscle...well it could be fat but hopefully notOriginally Posted by GHO5T
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not sayin ur wrong ghost jus curious why
The only thing bad about an oral cycle depending on what you use and how much, is that most 17aas are hepatotoxic. Thats it.
Why not some winny? get200-10mg tabs and eatup. you surely keep your 10lbs or more
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me too
I've done all three of these..Originally Posted by Haro3
tbol/var was the best.. dbol really swells me up, so i don't like that..
if you would prefer.. do 1-4 tbol then 5-8 var.. that's a killer cycle..
you will need pct..
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i understand where your coming from but i have my reasons as to why an oral only cycle IMO shouldnt be doneOriginally Posted by Haro3
personally when i cycle my goal is to gain quality muscle mass, when i think of oral cycles (dbol, drol) what comes to mind is sloppy weight, as you stated above (bolded phrase) hopefully its not fat. and yes the bro will gain no doubt but you have to keep in mind that most of that weight will be sloppy weight (again as you mentioned above), and personally i rather not gain a thing than gain 5 lbs being fat
also another reason is that with only oral cycles you will tend to run them for 6 maybe 8 weeks, which IMO is a waste of your time and money, rather then spending 6-8 weeks doing only oral cycles and seeing min results, you could run a cycle like this
prop
tren
npp
running this for the same amount of time and you can easily gain 20 lbs, say you loose 5 pounds after its all said and done, thats a total gain of 15 lbs (which will most likely be quality muscle) compared to the total gain of 5 pounds (as you stated above) from the only oral cycle.
with that said i personally wouldnt do an only oral cycle b/c mainly it doesnt fit my goals, and i see it as a waste of time and gear
What is "Sloppy weight" ?
look i know im new here, but tbol doesnt show any gains till week three? right? generally tapers off at week 6 or so.....Originally Posted by spywizard
and lenny im on an oral only right now....tbol and winny goin good so far i think its week 6 or 7 and im done next week.....went from 150 to 165 right now and strength is up .....hopefully ill keep most of that depending on how pct goes
A waste of time and gear?Originally Posted by GHO5T
TIME: What took Tbol to do in six weeks would have taken six months natty, min.
GEAR: Tbol is cheap compared to food. It would have taken thousands of dollars in food to get me the 13 or so permanant LBM pounds that 2500 mg's of tbol gave me for pennies on the dollar.
true, but most people want to run 8 weeks, and most will not run this as to the damage to the liver..Originally Posted by Manpretty
the point of the tbol in this case is to add some thickness, even if it is slight, then run the var to take it away..
just my 1st hand trial and efforts.. might not work of all.. or none..
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bro im not comparing tbol (or any only oral aas usage) to natty but im comparing them with injectable aasOriginally Posted by Johny-too-small
*also all that ive said in this thread are just my opinions, im not saying a only oral cycle shouldnt be done and is wrong, it doesnt fit my goals so therefore i consider usage of only oral aas to be a waste of time and gear*
Last edited by GHO5T; 12-11-2006 at 09:35 PM.
Personally I wouldn't run an oral only cycle except for Var+tbol.
I'm assuming since you can't use needles, it's because you are either in outter space or jail. If not, there is NO excuse for not using a injectable for a base.
your avyOriginally Posted by Skullsmasher
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haro from what ive read from ghost he is the biggest flamer and parrot on this board.he looks like he knows his shit, i agree(from his avator),but if anyone new 0n here askes a question who flames first? its ghost. i hate reading his responses because it goes like this your a @ucking retard and im the all and knowing steroid guru god.give me a f#cking break.im done.lolOriginally Posted by Haro3
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Originally Posted by Haro3
Hell no, saluu is ripped!!!!
ok here is my 2 cents on it....i would do the t-bol and var cycle i know i did var and i liked it....very costly but i did like it but the reason i would go with this is cause liver issue just be sure if your gonna run it 8 weeks get blood work done....because well i would rather be safe than sorry
...........Originally Posted by notorious_mem
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I understand, Im running Test E w/ tbol now. Its mucho betta.Originally Posted by GHO5T
yea i dont agree with ya man. i've talked to ghost through pm on an up coming cycle and i appreciate his help. i only see him giving advice where he has experience which is all u can ask for.Originally Posted by notorious_mem
Originally Posted by notorious_mem
its a good thing you added your input/experience on the posted question and didnt just write useless crap wasting board space......
ps dont even write a responce i already posted my input/experience......thanks tho...........fuk tard
he just says bro....alot!
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