Can you be Olympia level without using 19-nors

[Andros]

What do you experienced folk think, are 19-nors necessary or are there other ways to get olympia massive.


I personally would like to avoid ever using any hormone with progestenic activity as it is my belief that thats what causes permanent HPTA problems (males are not meant to activate brain progesterone receptors IMHO)

[Andros]

No one?

[*Narkissos*]

Pro-level.. yes
Olympia contender level.. no

imo at least.

The inclusing of 19-nors gives the most bang for the buck

[kaberle_15]

I doubt someone could make it to the Olympia dancefloor without em. Those guys are on year round and use just about everything.

[cfiler]

There are other compounds that can be used instead. But it would be much easier with them included.

Possible = yes
Plausible = no

[Andros]

There are other compounds that can be used instead. But it would be much easier with them included.

Possible = yes
Plausible = no

What other compounds are you thinking of?

[skipp]

Compounds like the one mentioned in your other thread, 1test-cyp. And other derivatives of test.

I just don't see someone becoming high up on the pro charts, especially not olympia level, without tren , deca , and other 19nors.

[A50#]

What do you experienced folk think, are 19-nors necessary or are there other ways to get olympia massive.


I personally would like to avoid ever using any hormone with progestenic activity as it is my belief that thats what causes permanent HPTA problems (males are not meant to activate brain progesterone receptors IMHO)

In this day and age with Igf-1lr3, GH, MGF, plus the basics like testosterone , Masteron , Winstrol ......I say it's very possible.

[GGallin]

What is 19 nors? I know laugh it up. But what is it? Like growth hormone or something?

[getbig32]

not very possible

[skipp]

What is 19 nors? I know laugh it up. But what is it? Like growth hormone or something?

A type of AAS, including deca , tren , and others with a alteration at the 19th position on the carbon skeleton.

[Andros]

What is 19 nors? I know laugh it up. But what is it? Like growth hormone or something?

Tren , Deca and all other AAS missing carbon 19th from their structure.

[fLgAtOr]

Tren, Deca and all other AAS missing carbon 19th from their structure.

And to add to that stupid question , what else other than those two?

[cfiler]

What other compounds are you thinking of?

Well, if you have a superfreak (who started traing at 5, with incredible genetics. It's definately possible for that person to reach the Olypia level with Igf, Groth Hormone, testosterone , 17aa steroids , ect.

Possible yes, but probably it will never happen.

[GGallin]

Cool sign me up!