Calling All DNP Users

[reddragon4954]

I am going to start a cycle in a few days. I have the 250mg crystal version. Im a little over 200lbs and 12 or 13%bf. I want to lose 15-20 pounds fat. What do you think would be the best way to go about it?

Plan on 250 for the first few days and want to increase to 3 caps a day spaced 6 hours a part. Will run for about 2 weeks what do you think?

Please only constructive criticism, I know many people disagree with the use of this stuff.

[reddragon4954]

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[magic32]

I am going to start a cycle in a few days. I have the 250mg crystal version. Im a little over 200lbs and 12 or 13%bf. I want to lose 15-20 pounds fat. What do you think would be the best way to go about it?

Plan on 250 for the first few days and want to increase to 3 caps a day spaced 6 hours a part. Will run for about 2 weeks what do you think?

Please only constructive criticism, I know many people disagree with the use of this stuff.

That's as constructive as it gets!
Your plan is sound though, as long you implement all the necessary safeguarding ancillaries.

M.

[goose]

Since you PM me I will respond here.Use ONLY 250mg a day for the first four days. I don't care that you don't "feel" anything yet and you wanna bump it up. DNP accumulates in the body, and not "feeling" something means NOTHING. It's there, and it's working (the effect on metabolism begins within two hours of the first dose!). Four days will let you test your tolerance: do you have an allergy? Does it give you a rash? Can you handle this drug? Got it?

The average dose is 250-750/day, and more than that gets a little severe. A full gram is the highest dose I've seen anyone use.And it' was hell for my mate. I like to stay around 250-500 a day as I use IGF with DNP!! , which is HOT but safe and effective. Take caps even hours apart through the day, ending about 4-5 PM.I love to throw ECA - DNP is not a stimulant. To keep energy high and aid in fat loss, use an ECA. Some advisors suggest that regular ephedrine is preferable to norephedrine because of the more direct "hit" of energy,I also find it helps to keep muscle.

[magic32]

Since you PM me I will respond here. 1) Use ONLY 2050mg a day for the first four days. 2) I don't care that you don't "feel" anything yet and you wanna bump it up. DNP accumulates in the body, and not "feeling" something means NOTHING. It's there, and it's working (the effect on metabolism begins within two hours of the first dose!). 3) Four days will let you test your tolerance: do you have an allergy? Does it give you a rash? Can you handle this drug? Got it?

The average dose is 250-750/day, and more than that gets a little severe. A full gram is the highest dose I've seen anyone use.And it' was hell for my mate. I like to stay around 250-500 a day as I use IGF with DNP!! , which is HOT but safe and effective. Take caps even hours apart through the day, ending about 4-5 PM.I love to throw ECA - DNP is not a stimulant. To keep energy high and aid in fat loss, use an ECA. Some advisors suggest that regular ephedrine is preferable to norephedrine because of the more direct "hit" of energy,I also find it helps to keep muscle.

1. Goose must have been really busy, I'm sure he meant 250mgs.
2. If you don't feel DNP's effects...you're already dead!
3. Often sensitivity to the toxic effects of this poisonous phenol are mistaken as allergic reactions. Goose's four days may have been conservative, as I've seen this take up to a week.

M.

[goose]

1. Goose must have been really busy, I'm sure he meant 250mgs.
2. If you don't feel DNP's effects...you're already dead!
3. Often sensitivity to the toxic effects of this poisonous phenol are mistaken as allergic reactions. Goose's four days may have be conservative, as I've seen this take up to a week.

M.

Thanks......250.....................

[energizer bunny]

I am going to start a cycle in a few days. I have the 250mg crystal version. Im a little over 200lbs and 12 or 13%bf. I want to lose 15-20 pounds fat. What do you think would be the best way to go about it?

Plan on 250 for the first few days and want to increase to 3 caps a day spaced 6 hours a part. Will run for about 2 weeks what do you think?

Please only constructive criticism, I know many people disagree with the use of this stuff.

keep us posted ive got my caps and ive started a 10 day test(as in experiment) cycle on sunday jst to see if i have a bad reactions to it not bothered about results YET. proper cycle starts in january.

[reddragon4954]

If I take the benadryl a day before and through the cycle will that keep me from getting the rash or allergic reaction that some get?

[magic32]

If I take the benadryl a day before and through the cycle will that keep me from getting the rash or allergic reaction that some get?

Benadryl at inception will slow the process but not prevent it. And again, it's a toxic reaction not an allergic one. DNP is a phenol as indicated by its name Dinitrophenol, not an allergen.

It has been theorized that DNP goes uncaptured by any of the body’s subsystem feedback loops, and consequently just continues to accumulate unchecked. This could not be further from the truth. Instead your body rebels from the very first interaction tactile, inhalation, or ingestion. It causes uncouple oxidative phosphorylation, and fatigue, excessive sweating, hyperthermia and thirst may be followed by exhaustion and death in severe cases. Toxic effects often appear at blood concentrations greater than 30 mg/l while concentrations greater than 60 mg/l are associated with severe toxicity.

However, as with all things, some people are even more sensitive to it, hence the torso rash, an overt manifestation of the covert internal problems.

Read some of this:

TOXICOLOGY

A. ACUTE TOXICITY

DERMAL: Staining of skin and minor irritation by very small
amounts. Rapid absorption - Used to exterminate
guinea pigs is in the range of 100 to 200 mg/kg. Used to exterminate rabbits
formulations are: 170 mg/kg for Premerge 3 Dinitro
Amine Herbicide, 75 mg/kg for Dow General Weed Killer,
and 212 mg/kg for Dow Selective Weed Killer (58).

ORAL: For rat extermination = 58 mg/kg (rat) (58).

INHALATION: Dusts may be irritating and may cause serious
illness (58).

EYES: Mild to moderate irritation expected (58).

B. SUBACUTE AND CHRONIC TOXICITY:

Fed to rats for 5 to 13 days as 0.05% of diet; caused rapid
emaciation, slight kidney and liver effects, and death (58).

PRINCIPAL USES: The phenol form (Vertac General Weed Killer) is
used as a general contact herbicide in orchards, vineyards, forage
legumes, and for killing potato vines and desiccating seed crops to
facilitate harvest.


I’ve written extensively on this here's one thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=268779

M.

[reddragon4954]

If its a toxic reaction and not an allergic one then why does not everyone get the rash and stuff? Are some people more resistant to toxins or something?

[Jay-Ace]

I'll be starting my 1st course over the xmas period!!

I'm going for 250mg for 5 days then to 500mg for a further 9 days. At day 14 I may go to 750mg for 3-4 days but only as a booster if needed and if I'm feeling ok with it!!

[spywizard]

i've used it 3 times, won't do it again..

well, that's more of a guide.. i have a line for some crystal dnp ... might try that one..

clen /t3 with test/var..

i can do the same thing, and not stain my sheets, and kill parts of my body i might need later on..

[GHO5T]

are side effects as posted on the profile section for DNP realistic or are they exaggerated (blindness being the main)? just wondering as i have never ran DNP myself, but for the more experienced users/bros on here what do you think

[Jay-Ace]

are side effects as posted on the profile section for DNP realistic or are they exaggerated (blindness being the main)? just wondering as i have never ran DNP myself, but for the more experienced users/bros on here what do you think

A lot of the blindness risk is associated with hypoglycemia (very low blood sugars).


This is also more of a concern for women!!

[goose]

are side effects as posted on the profile section for DNP realistic or are they exaggerated (blindness being the main)? just wondering as i have never ran DNP myself, but for the more experienced users/bros on here what do you think

I will try and find the study.I would not use DNP if it had this risk (blindness)
Only the females developed these signs.Remember this was when DNP was legal...A long long long time ago.It was for this reseaon it was pulled from the market.

[GHO5T]

thanks for the input, i will deff need to research (DNP ) more before i consider usage

thanks again for the input appreciate it

[goose]

I'll be starting my 1st course over the xmas period!!

I'm going for 250mg for 5 days then to 500mg for a further 9 days. At day 14 I may go to 750mg for 3-4 days but only as a booster if needed and if I'm feeling ok with it!!

Thats very spot on.

Are you going to Carb deplete ?

Are you going to apply isocaloric diet ? Remember carbs are essential for DNP to work properly.I knew a guy that applied low carbs,he got poor results and felt like shit.The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by DNP. He will be lonely often and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

[goose]

thanks for the input, i will deff need to research (DNP ) more before i consider usage

thanks again for the input appreciate it

No problem.Sometimes you have to get a bloody nose,it`s all part of the game,you know?.DNP is the most effective fat burner and perhaps the most complicated drug in the bodybuilding community and should not be taken to lightly by average dieters striving to lose a couple of pounds. The side effects can be serious and numerous, but if used correctly, none of the side effects are permanent unlike CLEN !!!!!!. Despite these numerous side effects people still use it because it works when nothing else.

[goose]

1. Goose must have been really busy, I'm sure he meant 250mgs.
2. If you don't feel DNP's effects...you're already dead!
3. Often sensitivity to the toxic effects of this poisonous phenol are mistaken as allergic reactions. Goose's four days may have been conservative, as I've seen this take up to a week.

M.

On point 3.At what day do you feel best to increase dose,and why?

[Jay-Ace]

Thats very spot on.

Are you going to Carb deplete ?

Are you going to apply isocaloric diet ? Remember carbs are essential for DNP to work properly.I knew a guy that applied low carbs,he got poor results and felt like shit.The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by DNP. He will be lonely often and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

Goose,

Yeah carb depleting T- 4 days, on 4th day will be going with the insulin spiking technique (out of interest, do you do this??) along with heavy nutrient consumption the week before cycle. I will also be supplementing T4 into my diet from T- 1 week till end and possibly T3 if required. (I have hypothyroid so will be monitoring).

Diet wise I will be going for 8 small meals a day, I'm aiming for 60:30:10 (C:P:F) but not counting into fat percentage flax oil and cod liver oil (negligible fat anyway!!).

I may go to 55:35:10, gonna try and keep fat intake to 10% of diet. I will be testing urine daily for keto with test strips, if I do pickup proteins I will adapt!!

I'm adding 1g Lo-Salt (Potassium Chloride/Sodium Chloride) to every 1litre of water consumed, this will be pre-mixed and at this dose is tatseless. This should combat electrolyte depletion and cell ion transfer degradation.

Vit E 1000mg, Vit C 1000mg, Vit Bcx, Vit D 200mg, Creatin ?mg, Quercitin, Chromium/Magnesium Supplement, Caffeine 200mg & 1Tab Aspirin...... All once daily.

Fexofenadine/Cetirizine 50/50 on hand just in case, plus I have full access to a hospital pharmacy/dispensary for anything else I may or may not need!!


As you can, quite serious about it!!


I'll be measuring temperature intra-aurally every 4hrs by watch-alarm and will aim for 102°F consistent max temperature.


In emergency...... prepared with oxygen kindly loaned from the hospital , as well as chemical cold wraps and we've got a very big freezer here that will come in handy!!

[Jay-Ace]

Oh, and I will be allowing myself a 4-week intense recovery and the will do another strictly 2-week only cycle!!


I'm always playing guinea pig!!

[goose]

Thats a funney post mate,LOL.

I tell you it`s the best time to cycle DNP in the UK at the moment,in the winter.

Thats soooooooooo funey....Anyway it`s 2am and I`m going to down a shake,fck my bitch and sleep/Good night,,,,,

[nirish_mark20]

dnt mean to hijack, but does anyone know how to dispose of DNP capsules? i had a few before but have some left, no intention of using them, so shud i jst throw them in a bucket of water???

[Jay-Ace]

dnt mean to hijack, but does anyone know how to dispose of DNP capsules? i had a few before but have some left, no intention of using them, so shud i jst throw them in a bucket of water???

Yeah if you want yellow water and a yellow bucket!!


Run them to your docs and place them in the bio-hazard bin. You could put them in a sharps/pin container 1st.

[Jay-Ace]

Thats a funney post mate,LOL.

I tell you it`s the best time to cycle DNP in the UK at the moment,in the winter.

Thats soooooooooo funey....Anyway it`s 2am and I`m going to down a shake,fck my bitch and sleep/Good night,,,,,

Which bit??

[magic32]

If its a toxic reaction and not an allergic one then why does not everyone get the rash and stuff? Are some people more resistant to toxins or something?

This is also exhibited in allergens, aas compounds, medications, etc. Two can be exposed to the same substance in the same amount, at the same time, yet only one shows symptoms, or they can experience different symptoms.

The rash is a symptom, and some people are more sensitive than others. But the other symptoms are far more standard:

It causes uncouple oxidative phosphorylation, fatigue, excessive sweating, hyperthermia and thirst.

Herbicide and pesticide exposure is often the first thing checked when a child enters the ER with what's called "Fever symptoms without a fever". Take your temp on DNP , it may be slightly lower, higher or normal (for you), but it won't be fluent.

M.

[magic32]

i've used it 3 times, won't do it again..

well, that's more of a guide.. i have a line for some crystal dnp ... might try that one..

clen /t3 with test/var..

i can do the same thing, and not stain my sheets, and kill parts of my body i might need later on..

Your first thought was the best. Though DNP in winter is quite a different experience from that of summer, like night and day.

M.

[briansauras]

Your first thought was the best. Though DNP in winter is quite a different experience from that of summer, like night and day.

M.

250mg for 21-28days is far superior to 600mg for 8-12. Take my advice but if you dont want to believe me try them both for yourself and you can be the judge.

[magic32]

On point 3.At what day do you feel best to increase dose,and why?

It's best to leave it alone.
But if one insists, for the novice boosting the dose by one cap every 3-4 days to 600mgs is typical. As for that 250mg crystal cap that's so pervasive now, I was told by Giant that it's actually 200mgs of DNP , with 50mgs of cyrstalline salt.

Out of curiosity, how many cycles have you run Goose?

Hooker surmized that it cannot be safely run for more than 21 days at our high dosages. I've seen obesity doctors prescribe it at 125mgs EOD for up to a year, along with 100mcgs of T3. The results were in excess of 160lbs of fat loss, from obviously an extreme starting weight/fat amt.

M.

[magic32]

250mg for 21-28days is far superior to 600mg for 8-12. Take my advice but if you dont want to believe me try them both for yourself and you can be the judge.

If that worked better for you, I have no problem believing your testimony.

Did you actually measure your bf after both, and if so what were the stats?

M.

[briansauras]

If that worked better for you, I have no problem believing your testimony.

Did you actually measure your bf after both, and if so what were the stats?

M.

Prolly a bad example cause I basically lost 15lbs but really didnt look like I lost it. My muscles were just alot more defined and I had alot more vascularity. I was using clen /t3 prior and I lost those 15lbs but everytime I would go out of town for the wknd and not be on a strict strict diet the weight would come back on, then during the wk it would be back off. After the DNP I was able to maintaine the weightloss.

I was talking more in perspective of tolerable sides and being able to keep off the weight that was lost. 600mg gave me the worst carb cravings I had ever experienced. Also I would just be sitting around and have sweat dripping off of my chin not to mention wake up in puddles in the morning.

I think you need to experiment to see which suits you better. If i didnt have to go in public or live in a 95* heat I would run 800mg for 4wks. But you just look rediculous. I will prolly experiment with 400mg for 21-28days next.

[magic32]

Did I miss something?
What happened to your less for longer is better than more for shorter declaration? I was asking about your results from each.

Also, when I say measure I mean bf/water loss not weight. If these weren't measured, or if you're comparing Clen /T3 to DNP then your previous statement about one being better (speaking of the DNP protocols) is all but obsolete.

M.

[shrpskn]

Another fantastic DNP discussion...it's good to read all this discussion on this compound.....I would definitely want to be "as informed as possible" before dabbling in this stuff.

-ShrpSkn

[reddragon4954]

Well give me props I started it. haha

[briansauras]

Did I miss something?
What happened to your less for longer is better than more for shorter declaration? I was asking about your results from each.

Also, when I say measure I mean bf/water loss not weight. If these weren't measured, or if you're comparing Clen /T3 to DNP then your previous statement about one being better (speaking of the DNP protocols) is all but obsolete.

M.

I was saying I liked the less for longer approach. I got alittle bit bloated but there was night and day diff from when i started the dnp and stopped. That 34day period(since i did 600mg 8days then 200mg for 21) made the biggest diff in my 4months of cutting.

[Eams]

G'day fellars. I've had a trial of dnp before taking 400mg/day for 9 days. Definitely sweat like a mofo but didn't really experience anything in the way of leaning out. I ate a clean diet but not ckd or anything, knowing that carbs are necessary when on dnp. Can one of you fine folks please tell me what other variables I need to consider tweaking for my second go at this? Regular vits etc were all involved (ie vit c, antiox etc)

p.s. I've read all of animal's stuff and plenty of other lit on dnp, and used to be in email contact with animal but this musta been 5-6 years ago. But I've been out of the loop for quite a while (still training just not on forums). I used to be a regular poster at a lowcarb site where Lyle McDonald was just starting to reach guru status. Not trying to talk myself up rather give ya some background and show I'm not a COMPLETE noob. Most of the advice here is well thought out and on the money from what I've read so I would appreciate you guys to bounce some ideas around with me too. Thanks in advance team! - Eams.

[briansauras]

I dont even remember how I timed DNP . I think every 12hrs......

How did you guys space 600mg?