First Cycle Help

[tamirtamirtamir1]

i am 25 years old, been traning for 4 years, had used 1-ad and m1-t, and want to do a real cycle now, i weight 200 pounds' and 185 cm high, i have 2 vial of 10 ml 250 ml test enan and 2 vial 10 ml of deca 300 ml, and 100 pils of d-bol 10 mg each, i want to do a 10 week cycle of 500 mg test and 500 mg deca a week, and the d bol for 4 weeks at 30 mg aday, i know it sounds realy strong for a first cycle, but i am not a small guy, and want to do one strong cycle instade of 2 weaker, my next cycle will be in 1.5 years so it will be planty of time to rest, i would like to hear your opinnions, bodybuilding is the best thing in this world!!!!!!!

[SMAN12b]

What do you have for PCT??? That is the most important part of any cycle.

Just because the vials say 10ml, you may find you fall short for the 10 weeks due to lose or under measured.

Yes this is TOO much for a first cycle but you are gonna do it anyway, so

Do this

Weeks 1-12 Test E at 500mgs/week shot 250 every 3.5 days
weeks 1-10 Deca @ 500mgs/week shot with the Test
Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 30mgs day spread out in three doses

Deca should be cut short of the test by two weeks, and doing 8 weeks of deca really doesn't make sense so get more test.
PCT starts 14 days after last Test e inject

[MAXIMA5]

can;t add much to that.

[tamirtamirtamir1]

sman12b, my pct is week 12 nolvadex 30 a day, clomid 50 aday, week13 the same, wekk 14 and 15 nolvadex 20 clomid 50, and 3 shoots of hcg after the end of the cycle, i am not gone do it anyway, i cant get more test, dont have the mony, so what do you say about 450 ml test for 12 weeks, and deca 500 ml for 10 weeks?

[tamirtamirtamir1]

or i put it that way, with what i have' waht do you think is the best mix?

[MAXIMA5]

I would hit the hcg about 3 weeks before your cycle ends. about 300-400 iu every 3 or 4 days

[tamirtamirtamir1]

that what i was thinking maxima5, i think of doing that: for 12 week 400 test a week, for 10 weeks 450 deca a week, and the d bol 4 first weeks, that the best i can think of,

[tamirtamirtamir1]

and if i do it like that, when should i start the pct, from week 14?

[SMAN12b]

that what i was thinking maxima5, i think of doing that: for 12 week 400 test a week, for 10 weeks 450 deca a week, and the d bol 4 first weeks, that the best i can think of,

That will work for you.


Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 30
Weeks 1-12 Test @ 400mgs
Weeks 1-10 Deca @ 450mgs

PCT is 14 days after last Test Inject

Yeah that will do with what you have. Just make sure your diet and training are in line for your goals

[tamirtamirtamir1]

tanks alot sman12b, you realy help me, can you plz right me the pct, and dont worry about training and dieting, in that i have lot of experince, i had gain natrualy 15 kilo of mucle- 33 punds in 2 years, i gess it shows a good diet and training program :-]

[SMAN12b]

sman12b, my pct is week 12 nolvadex 30 a day, clomid 50 aday, week13 the same, wekk 14 and 15 nolvadex 20 clomid 50, and 3 shoots of hcg after the end of the cycle, i am not gone do it anyway, i cant get more test, dont have the mony, so what do you say about 450 ml test for 12 weeks, and deca 500 ml for 10 weeks?

This is fine for your PCT. Just start it on week 14. It would be great if you had more, you never want to limit yourself to just 4 weeks PCT incase it takes you longer to recover. but this should be fine

[tamirtamirtamir1]

and the shoots of the hcg, when and how much?,and i can have more clomid and novadex, i get it for chip prize

[SMAN12b]

and the shoots of the hcg, when and how much?,and i can have more clomid and novadex, i get it for chip prize

You would be best to check out the PCT forum as there are countles ways of taking HCG.