Test c + Test sus = ???

**rooster101** · 12-14-2006, 04:35 PM

You see, i train professional fighters for a living but i belive that experienced body builders have more credibility as far as how these steroids make you feel, because of the more common use of them. thats why im not on the boxing/mma forum asking my question. i want to use Test C, and Test suspension on our last week of training which of course is our recovery week, just to ensure that my guys dont mentally have an off day(as far as agression) on fight day. 5-7 days before fight day Test c, 1-3 hours before fight Test suspension. only two shots the entire week because i dont want them to be needle sore. and no test before because we dont want to build big muscles. Let me hear what you experts have to say about what ive come up with, without hearing about halotest, anadrol , chek drops etc... thanks, rooster101

**shrpskn** · 12-14-2006, 08:27 PM

Test C is out of the question if you want to incorporate it just 5-7 days prior to competition...It will be weeks before the cyp begins it's release.

The first thing that came to my mind for your situation was cheque drops , but you already said that is not what you're looking for...with that being said, and being that your looking for a good pre-competition test, then test suspension is in fact your best bet...for optimal effects from the test susp, you will want to administer it at least 3 times a day due to the extremely short half-life....

IMO, I'd have your boys run the suspension for a that 5-7 days prior to competition to get that added strength and aggression that you're looking for. Don't forget about a possible brief PCT........

Or.......there's always cheque drops.

Good luck,

-ShrpSkn

**rooster101** · 12-14-2006, 08:43 PM

thanks bro, i ask my questions with an open mind. the reason why just the test because thats the only thing i can get a hold of. thanks for the reponse again.

**rooster101** · 12-14-2006, 08:49 PM

hey i got a dumb question, whats PCT.

**rooster101** · 12-14-2006, 08:51 PM

never mind

**rooster101** · 12-14-2006, 08:52 PM

i just looked it up

**rooster101** · 12-15-2006, 03:32 PM

so let me ask this. if i use a shot of test c 14 days then 7 days, then test suspension on fight day 1-3 hours before fight, being that the test c will be in the system for 14 days and use the suspension to really boost the test c thats already there, im "thinking" we should really be on point??????? my guys would also be sensitive to this because they dont ever use any kind of test. what do you guys think???

**rooster101** · 12-15-2006, 09:36 PM

any second opinion's would be appreciated.

**rooster101** · 12-16-2006, 12:04 AM

by the way how long would it take to start felling the agression affect instead of the mucle gain affect that im looking for with test c??????

**SMAN12b** · 12-16-2006, 12:21 AM

Test Cyp is a LONG ester test and take anywhere from 4-8 weeks to build up in your system. Everybody is different though but that is an average.

If you could get Test Prop and run it for two weeks that may be better because it will release quicker and you will feel it in about a week or so.

as Shrpskn already stated, Test Suspension sounds to be the best bet for what you are looking to achieve in such a short period.

But it will shut down natural test production so PCT is definetly suggested

**shrpskn** · 12-16-2006, 12:26 AM

The cypionate ester is not going to release the test for at least a good 4-5 weeks after you administer your first injections...some claim a bit less, others claim a bit longer...but I think 4-5 weeks is the norm, which based on what you're looking for here, it just doesn't seem to be the appropriate compound for your needs...I said test C was out of the question at the get go...why don't you want to let go of that.

IMO, run test prop...50-100mg/ed for the couple weeks up until competition...you can utilize some suspension for the days or so up to the competition...50-100mg/ed at 3x daily injection intervals.
That's the best scenario I can think of putting together for you based on what you seem to be looking for...
Tren A may be another component to add to the equation as well, as it is known to really spike strength and aggression when used.

Either way you look at it, you're going to want to consider a PCT even with the looks of the planned 1-2 week cycle you intend to incorporate here.

Personally, I'd scrap any tentative cycle and just go with some cheque drops the day of the competition...now that shit will make your boys want to rip someones fuking head off...assses and elbows would be flying.

-ShrpSkn

**guest589745** · 12-16-2006, 12:29 AM

Cypionate before a fight? Pointless.

I assume you wish to use anabolics to primarily give you an advantage over your opponent correct?

I would recomend either
a. using anabolics for a longer duration preceeding the fight
b. use a more suitable compound for that instance such as halotestin or cheque drops which can cause a great increase in agggression/strength rather quickly.

**rooster101** · 12-16-2006, 12:42 AM

you guys are awsome, this is very infromation that i was looking for. belive me ive done countless hours of research about the test c through profiles, fourms on this site,google, yahoo,and many others, and nothing ive read is based on the result that i was looking for it was always on acitve life, half life, esters, detection time, and when your going to notice mucle growth. thats why i had a hard time understanding the first response. this is not something that i do to look good for at the beach, this is how i pay my bills. so when i say thanks to you both for your very helpful input, i really mean thanks!!!!!!!!! regards rooster101

**rooster101** · 12-16-2006, 12:43 AM

you to skullsmasher

**guest589745** · 12-16-2006, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by rooster101

you to skullsmasher

Be safe, good luck. Anytime.

**rooster101** · 12-16-2006, 02:53 AM

how would you run tren a, for what i am doing?????

**shrpskn** · 12-16-2006, 03:02 AM

Ok, let's get into specifics here...not this 5-7 days this or 1-3 days that...

Exactly how long is the ended length of AAS use here?..Specifically please.

And is this for you, your boys, or both?...in either case, what are the stats of the individual(s) that will be looking to run the tentative cycle we're discussing here.

IMO, if this is going to be something less than 2 weeks, there is really not much you or your boys can do but consider test suspension. That's just my opinion in the matter. Any other compound is really not going to give you any great deal of benefits with only one weeks' worth of use.

-ShrpSkn

**rooster101** · 12-16-2006, 03:32 AM

this will be just for my guys. i dont know what aas is but theres certain shows we dont get tested because the athletec comission has no juradiction over indian casinos. most of my guys fight in lower weight classes like 155lbs and 170lbs. they come in about 30lbs heavy 6 weeks away from fight useing hgh to help us cutt weight, then we cutt about 10lbs of water weight the day before the fight on weight inns. thats why i was affraide of useing it longer than a week. and i cant be open with other people in my business because when your at the top there always try to knock you down.

**shrpskn** · 12-16-2006, 03:41 AM

I think in your case, the best option would be test suspension for that week...with a dash of cheque drops on fight day.

Make sure brief PCT is ran afterwards to hinder any suppression that may have occured during the week of suspension use.

BTW, AAS = Anabolic Androgenic Steroids .

Good luck,

-ShrpSkn

**rooster101** · 12-16-2006, 03:45 AM

thanks for being patient with me you have help me more than you know, i joined this web site just to ask that very question. i wish i could pay you. thanks again

**shrpskn** · 12-16-2006, 03:50 AM

No problem bro...that is what boards like this are supposed to be here for...

If we didn't have communities like this to turn to for advice and to gain knowledge of such things...there would alot more negative statistics out there than we could fathom.

I'm happy to be a member here and at many other boards that I contribute to...it's my pleasure to help others out and to continue to further educate myself in the field of AAS use, as I am certainly no expert by no means......yet.

-ShrpSkn

**rooster101** · 01-16-2007, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

Tren A may be another component to add to the equation as well, as it is known to really spike strength and aggression when used.

Either way you look at it, you're going to want to consider a PCT even with the looks of the planned 1-2 week cycle you intend to incorporate here.

-ShrpSkn

whats the shortest about of time before a fight you can cycle tren a ,before you get tren cough and how would you cycle tren a just to get the agression affect?

**shrpskn** · 01-16-2007, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by rooster101

whats the shortest about of time before a fight you can cycle tren a ,before you get tren cough and how would you cycle tren a just to get the agression affect?

I sometimes get a bit irritable with tren A within the first week of use.

I think maximum serum levels with tren A are achieved within 3-5 days after administration.

**dragon69** · 01-16-2007, 04:07 PM

yes tren a could do that, but just be aware that not ALL get the aggression, I did only for like 2 hours then it went the opposite way and I had depression instead, so maybe more like suspension the whole way and then fight day hit some tren a and cheque drops (thats what tyson used before his holyfield eat biting fight).
I would like to point out however that you may get water weight with the suspension and thus I think it would be best to test far ahead of time how your guys respond to that drug instead of becoming just over and into a heavier weight class.....OR you could use a products like arimidex , letrozol etc to keep the water weight off.

**dragon69** · 01-16-2007, 04:10 PM

so why not do Test Prop, Tren A with some Letrozole the whole week and then add some cheque drops before the fight.

Think that would be your best bet so far.

**shrpskn** · 01-16-2007, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by dragon69

so why not do Test Prop, Tren A with some Letrozole the whole week and then add some cheque drops before the fight.

Think that would be your best bet so far.

I'm not too sure about this...for some people, test prop and tren A can take up to a week just to see any real effects from it.

**rooster101** · 01-16-2007, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by dragon69

so why not do Test Prop, Tren A with some Letrozole the whole week and then add some cheque drops before the fight.

Think that would be your best bet so far.

cant get a hold of cheque drops. already have test sus, tren a.

**dragon69** · 01-16-2007, 05:13 PM

What I dont understand is why you dont start it all earlier than 1 week out if you're not gonna be tested. If you can start earlier, then prop and tren would be good, susp only lasts for like 1 hr a believe and you'd need something longer acting then than in a fighter who will want to train 2-3 hours at a time.

**shrpskn** · 01-16-2007, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by dragon69

What I dont understand is why you dont start it all earlier than 1 week out if you're not gonna be tested.

I would like to know this too.

**zipster_dude** · 01-16-2007, 05:53 PM

The prop would be a bad idea!............. you don't want your fighters so sore they can't duck and jive. Prop hurts like a bitch up to 2 days after the injection. Most people inject prop ed or eod so that would be out of the question for your use.

**shrpskn** · 01-16-2007, 06:54 PM

^^ I'm not very certain about this unless the individual is virgin to prop injects.

The more I have used prop and the longer I've ran it, I have found it to be much more tolerable and less post-inject soreness...then again, some say their body never becomes acclimated. So I may be wrong.

**zipster_dude** · 01-16-2007, 07:10 PM

That's true to Sharp, I only say that because these guys sound pretty new.

**dragon69** · 01-16-2007, 08:04 PM

Ya but susp is like 2-3x a day, so even more shots.
I used to compete in MMA so i know these fighters train for hours at a time, the susp would be wearing off and they wouldnt want to train after that, thats why i hesitate on that.

Also If mixed with Tren the prop shots wont be as bad. Actually add some Masteron in there as well for crazy strength with the tren and even more pain reduction.

**rooster101** · 01-16-2007, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by dragon69

What I dont understand is why you dont start it all earlier than 1 week out if you're not gonna be tested.

you see the last week before the fight is a recovery week, we barley do anything.thats why i thought it would be a good time to do that. im trying to aviod putting on weight, and add agression with the gear that i have.

**rooster101** · 01-16-2007, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by zipster_dude

That's true to Sharp, I only say that because these guys sound pretty new.

yes your right new we are to aas, but know mma like you guys know your stuff. thats why im all ears.

**rooster101** · 01-16-2007, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by dragon69

Masteron in there as well for crazy strength with the tren and even more pain reduction.

do you give the masteron the whole week?

**dragon69** · 01-16-2007, 11:50 PM

same as the prop and tren A, every day is best but can do every 2days as well

masteron will help keep you ripped as well as the tren, so you will lean like crazy with that combo while adding muscle, masteron also can increase aggression

**rooster101** · 01-17-2007, 01:27 AM

how many hours before a fight would you take the cheque drops ?

**dragon69** · 01-17-2007, 03:00 AM

i dont know, never used it, go to the profiles sections and look it up, look at the active life.
i really think you could start a long while before you're planning to with the prop/tren /masteron since it will add muscle but take off fat, and the fighters (like I said I used to be 1 so I know) will be able to train harder, longer so they wont put on too much weight either.....train em till they're tired day after day while on this stuff without any worry.