whats better?

[Primoborne34]

mast + prim + dec

or

cyp + dec + win

for cutting and power.

[guest589745]

tren + npp + test + dbol


Nah, it depends man.

dose
training
duration
diet
genetics

[Primoborne34]

well i don't want alot of water/estro. i'm as big as i want to be just want to get hard and lean

i ve heard 100 mg mast 3/a week primo 150-200/week and dec 250 a week works well with low SE's, anyone hear of this stack or tried it?

[shrpskn]

Whatever route you chose...if it involves a 19-nor, I would at least run a low dose(250mg/wk) of test in the stack...

[Primoborne34]

t-250 why?

[shrpskn]

...Unless you don't care about your rocket becoming a noodle.

[Primoborne34]

so test 250/w to keep the wang standing tall

thats alot of sh!t to stack at one time so......

run test the whole time? or what?

[G-1000]

No one cycle is better then ano other. It all depends on what you goals are and if you can keep to a good diet.

[shrpskn]

Well the next question, which should have been the first question in this thread is: What are your stats?

Age, height, weight, training experience, cycle experience, goals.....

[Primoborne34]

26, 6'0 , 245-50, 7 years, no cycle exp.,

I want hardness, lowered bodyfat%, and strong like bull !

[G-1000]

So you like the rest of the world. You wont to get big and ripped. I say if that is the case take the blue pill 2 times a day.

[shrpskn]

What is your current bf% ?

[G-1000]

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more than you I dont think so.

[Primoborne34]

already big enuf i don't really want anymore mass hardness and strength BF is 12.5%

[Primoborne34]

245 no gear i think is pretty good!!

[shrpskn]

IMO, at your stats you don't need any AAS...clean up your diet and bring that bf% into the single digits and you'll be looking damn good.

As for strength increases...

If I was in your shoes, I'd firstly get myself well educated with the proper use of AAS and all facets that include it's use (i.e. diet, training, PCT, ect.)

You already appear to have an excellent base and you state that you are not looking for mass....just a lean and hard look along with strength increase.

With no cycle experience...I'll let others be the judge of what you should run for a first cycle to achieve what it is you're looking for.

-ShrpSkn