critique pls

[energizer bunny]

jst thinking of my next cycle, i box so i jst want a nice lean mm and lower BF, 5 pounds top for gain,

this is by no means the final jst an idea ive had.
im out of action for a bit with broken ribs. an ive jst ran a dnp cycle at 200 mg to see how i would react, no probs at all,
il be back in traing in the 3rd week of jan. so here goes.

3 days carb deplete.
2 weeks prior to training 200-400 mg of DNP. 4 days off.
start cycle.
weeks 1-4 T-bol 80-100 mg aday ( ive ran it b4 at 80, no sides)
weeks 5-8 winny at 100 mg aday ( ive ran it b4, no sides)
3 days carb deplete
then 2 weeks of DNP again at 200mg-400 mg, (ill take two weeks out of boxing while doing this)

Any ideas on PCT, thinking of aromasin , nolva and clomid ( maybe to much?)

obviously ill be taking all needed supps.

please feel free to RIP apart as this is jst an idea and could easily be COMPLETE SHIT What do you think?

[Mista Massive]

how many cycles u done b4? DNP ain't for beginers. try some test

[energizer bunny]

Ive done a few cycles my last one being with TEST-e, liked it alot but thats for off season not on. ive jst ran a DNP cycle as said above.

[perfectbeast2001]

If you take your boxing seriously then I dont think winny would be a good idea. It is great for the cosmetic sport of BB but it is hard on the joints and I find weakens my tendons. When cutting up on it last year I could hardly straighten my arms without discomfort. I headlocked a guy in a club and felt like my elbow had been ripped in half afterwards. Also the pump you will get from the winny/Tbol will make it very hard to box for any length of time. All in all I dont like any aspect of the cycle. If I was looking at a cycle to aid lean mass while boxing i would probably go for prop and NPP, nice lean gains, bit of added aggression, and hopefully fairly low sides.

[energizer bunny]

If you take your boxing seriously then I dont think winny would be a good idea. It is great for the cosmetic sport of BB but it is hard on the joints and I find weakens my tendons. When cutting up on it last year I could hardly straighten my arms without discomfort. I headlocked a guy in a club and felt like my elbow had been ripped in half afterwards. Also the pump you will get from the winny/Tbol will make it very hard to box for any length of time. All in all I dont like any aspect of the cycle. If I was looking at a cycle to aid lean mass while boxing i would probably go for prop and NPP, nice lean gains, bit of added aggression, and hopefully fairly low sides.

cheers beast as ive said nothing is set in stone, ive ran winny b4 and had no probs with my joints, and ran t-bol and the pumps in lower back where mad, so i no what your saying, but i think i could still handle the trainning. ill have a look into your ideas, i dont fancy injecting every other day yet, altough i will one day, the most ive injected so far is twice aweek. thanks again, ill let you know what i decide.

[shrpskn]

I'll say you'd be cut pretty damn sharp after that one.

[energizer bunny]

I'll say you'd be cut pretty damn sharp after that one.

yeh thats what im hopeing for
what do you think of it though?

[Manpretty]

if your willing to inject eod or ed you might consider prop and anavar .......and keep the wieght gain down through diet and cardio.....anavar while still being hard on the joints is less so than winny and might suit your goals better and prop due to the smaller amount of bloat youll get

[shrpskn]

I can't comment much on the DNP usage you have laid out there...I'm still learning on that subject and it is a very dangerous compound, so I'll abstain from giving any advice that I may have on that...goose and magic have extensive knowldege with DNP use..perhaps they'll chime in if they get the chance.

As for the AAS aspect of it...it looks like a nice little cutter, but I would also run test prop alongside it also...maybe 75mg/ed...

[energizer bunny]

if your willing to inject eod or ed you might consider prop and anavar.......and keep the wieght gain down through diet and cardio.....anavar while still being hard on the joints is less so than winny and might suit your goals better and prop due to the smaller amount of bloat youll get

Anavar would be first choice if it wasnt for £££££££££, as ive said i aint had probs with my joints previously ( i take alot glucosamine while on) going to look into prop but but ed/eod injects dont appeal realy. cheers for your input.

[energizer bunny]

I can't comment much on the DNP usage you have laid out there...I'm still learning on that subject and it is a very dangerous compound, so I'll abstain from giving any advice that I may have on that...goose and magic have extensive knowldege with DNP use..perhaps they'll chime in if they get the chance.

As for the AAS aspect of it...it looks like a nice little cutter, but I would also run test prop alongside it also...maybe 75mg/ed...

yeah ive read alot of posts over that past couple of months on DNP and they def know what there on about, your right it can be very dangerous if abused but so can most things, ive jst done my first 200mg adys of DNP 10 days jst to see effects/ how i feel, defo hot and sweats, but in my own personal opinion nothing compared to what clen does to me ( side effect wise)

[shrpskn]

I've never heard of too much test killing someone, but I definitely know that too much DNP will kill you over...that's what I meant by dangerous bro...the dosages you have laid out look ok..nothing extreme...as far as how to run it, I can't comment for lack of knowledge on DNP use.

[energizer bunny]

I've never heard of too much test killing someone, but I definitely know that too much DNP will kill you over...that's what I meant by dangerous bro...the dosages you have laid out look ok..nothing extreme...as far as how to run it, I can't comment for lack of knowledge on DNP use.

i thought you ment side effect wise mate, yeah it could defo kill you if you **** up on it, al just play it safe low doses for me.

[energizer bunny]

Anyone else have an opinion, magic, goose anyone else. cheers