a good stack for beginer

[Primoborne34]

whats a good stack for a beginer?

i want to ge stronger and leaner, also keep water and gyno way down

[JohnboyF]

Stats

Age
Height
Weight
Years Training
BF
Diet
would be a good start

[GHO5T]

we would be able to help you more if we knew your stats, if you can answer the questons posted above it would be very helpful

[guest589745]

10,000mg foodadrol every day, maybe some primobologna as well, to hit teh bologna receptors from another angle.

[Primoborne34]

Haa ok bologna it is, what 2 lb. a week for 12 weeks?

26 yo
245 lbs
6'0
7 years training
bf around 12%
diet 4,000 a day 50 30 20

[GHO5T]

Haa ok bologna it is, what 2 lb. a week for 12 weeks?

26 yo
245 lbs
6'0
7 years training
bf around 12%
diet 4,000 a day 50 30 20

i would suggest for a first cycle (keep as simple as possible)

dbol 40mg/ed (optional)
test e 500mg/wk

thats a good first cycle, and again dbol is optional but its a nice additon b/c you will get some gains until the test e kicks in

with a spot on diet and training regime you will see good results bro

best of luck to you

[Primoborne34]

bump

[Primoborne34]

is dbol tabs? test e what is E?

[jdavis2007]

If you want to get leaner and such, I would do 400mg/wk test en. with .25mg-.5mg/d letro with 50mg/d proviron . You can take your pick of primobolan , var, tbol, winstrol and masteron for the leaning out effect. Do some clen post cycle to get leaner and get rid of water. They are relatively conservative numbers but you won't get rid of water with that much test and dbol for your first cycle. If you have joint probs stay away from masteron and winstrol unless you include deca and/or gh to help with it.

[GHO5T]

is dbol tabs? test e what is E?

correct dbol comes in tabs, and test e is shot for test enanthate (a long ester test)

[GHO5T]

If you want to get leaner and such, I would do 400mg/wk test en. with .25mg-.5mg/d letro with 50mg/d proviron. You can take your pick of primobolan, var, tbol, winstrol and masteron for the leaning out effect. Do some clen post cycle to get leaner and get rid of water. They are relatively conservative numbers but you won't get rid of water with that much test and dbol for your first cycle. If you have joint probs stay away from masteron and winstrol unless you include deca and/or gh to help with it.

you have to consider its the bros first cycle, and running too many aas compounds will be overkill.

IMO a first cycle should be kept as simple as possible, a long ester test e or c should suffice, again dbol being optional.

[Primoborne34]

awsome so how much primo/wkly and for how long?

total cycle lasts what 10-12 weeks?

i 've done much research on masteron never heard anything about joint problems.?????

i have cyp 200 and Enanthate 200 but i have seen people on cyp gain alot of water.

so all i need is Enanthate and primo right?

can someone give me an idea decent sched with this stack?

[Mista Massive]

no stack!

just the test E @ 500mg/week for 12 weeks

DBol optional @ 30mg for the first 4 weeks

[Mista Massive]

forget the primo

[Primoborne34]

dbol 30 mg /wk first 4 weeks while on the test e, right?

will estrogen be a factor?

should i take something for estrogen, and if so how should i take it

[Primoborne34]

letro what is this stuff and how does it work

[Mista Massive]

letrozole is femara.
luiquidex is arimadex

man, u need to check out those steroid profiles.http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php

read ALL of them. i know there is a lot but if you are going to use AS then u should know AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. you should want to learn, instead of just asking others. of course there will be times that will require the opinions of experinced individuals, but when it comes to merely understanding the steroid and what it does, just read

[Primoborne34]

If i do cardio while on the gear will it enlarge my heart?

[Mista Massive]

AGAIN. you gotts stop this shit. just research for a bit first.

you are asking questions that you should know before posting threads, especially about what gear to take.

Yes, ANY training will enlarge your heart. but what is wrong with that?

[mousetraps]

i'm not sure from what i see so far that youre ready for gear... in my opinion the most preparation for gear occurs in the mind

[Primoborne34]

Dude easy....i am researching damn... the link you sent is good just wanted to know about the cardio

whats wrong with enlarged heart!? alot you only get one! ha i want to keep it as healthy as i can

again thanks for the link http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php

[Primoborne34]

[i'm not sure from what i see so far that youre ready for gear... in my opinion the most preparation for gear occurs in the mind]

come on now....you know as well as i do everybody is different i just want to get a fill of differnt possiblities.

asking questions is good tho.... and i agree finding them your self is better but my time is limited.

if nobody asked any questions on here there wouldn't be a need for this place bare with me its only my second time in here.

[mousetraps]

i think you should read through the free profiles on the different steroids that the staff here have provided is all...

[Mista Massive]

[i'm not sure from what i see so far that youre ready for gear... in my opinion the most preparation for gear occurs in the mind]

come on now....you know as well as i do everybody is different i just want to get a fill of differnt possiblities.

asking questions is good tho.... and i agree finding them your self is better but my time is limited.

if nobody asked any questions on here there wouldn't be a need for this place bare with me its only my second time in here.

look, you clearly don't get the picture. research is first and foremost. i never said there was a problem with asking questions. just the stupid ones you ask. you should know these things as they are basic, and common queries when researching. you would know that if you had researched at all. ppl ask questions mainly to see what happened first hand to someone AFTER they researched the paper side of it. graphs, etc... You clearly don't have a clue as to waht you're doing and if you wanna go sticking needles into yourself, go for it. i couldn't care less. just make sure its in the vein, and you use a 18 gauge 1.5" pin. that hurts less.

as for the heart. i said what's wrong with an enlarged heart? you said that you only get one. you retard. how coluld extra blood and oxygen flow through your body be a bad thing?

i know how, if you don't research, an enlarged heart will kill you.

by the way,

NOW

[kynetguy]

[i'm not sure from what i see so far that youre ready for gear... in my opinion the most preparation for gear occurs in the mind]

come on now....you know as well as i do everybody is different i just want to get a fill of differnt possiblities.

asking questions is good tho.... and i agree finding them your self is better but my time is limited.

if nobody asked any questions on here there wouldn't be a need for this place bare with me its only my second time in here.

1) Using gear is not a quick fix, its part of a lifestyle that is dedicated to healthy ways and a commitment to training. (I know that seems kind of oxymoronic)

2) If your time is limited, then you don't have time for gear. You dont just shoot crap for 8-12 weeks and look like Ron Coleman.

3) If you search and spend a couple hours reading in this forum, you will get all the knowledge you ever want and much more.

The frustration you feel from these guys is because you are asking questions that have been answered proabbly 50 times this week alone.

Your research and self gained knowledge should bring you to an intelligent conclusion to what cycle you want to try. Once you have put together a fairly sound cycle and know why you made the compound choices you did, bring it back to us. The Vets will eye it over, and they will know if you done any research, and tweak any errors you made.

They don't expect you to have a perfect cycle laid out. You are a newb, errors and bad choices will be made. But they DO expect you to have enough dedication to AAS to be self motivated enough to read a little.

[Primoborne34]

If you don't like my threads and don't F***ing read them

[kynetguy]

If you don't like my threads and don't F***ing read them

I guess this means we can all put him on ignore. . .

[Mista Massive]

I guess this means we can all put him on ignore. . .

You can say that again.

i tried to help this lazy bastard and he just cracks the sh*ts. what a baby. hey primobourne, NO HELP FOR YOU

[orton4]

If you don't like my threads and don't F***ing read them

dude try not to take it to heart... ppl will look after you on this board, theres are many experienced ppl here... as the others are telling you, you should research more, its very important if you are lookin to do AS... try not to take the comments to heart but as a learning experience... you will educate yourself more from talking to ppl here.. sometimes ppl will get on you hard but its cause they are trying to educate you... take it as a learning experience

[Mista Massive]

Dude, you gotta understand. you just can't go around asking questions hoping for the best answer. you need to buid a foundation of understanding, then ask the questions to build ON TOP of the base that you have taught yourself through research

[mousetraps]

in fact, the person with "not much time" would benefit immensely from using the search button.

[Mista Massive]

in fact, the person with "not much time" would benefit immensely from using the search button.

duh, my name is primobourne! duh, what's search mean?

[Booz]

look, you clearly don't get the picture. research is first and foremost. i never said there was a problem with asking questions. just the stupid ones you ask. you should know these things as they are basic, and common queries when researching. you would know that if you had researched at all. ppl ask questions mainly to see what happened first hand to someone AFTER they researched the paper side of it. graphs, etc... You clearly don't have a clue as to waht you're doing and if you wanna go sticking needles into yourself, go for it. i couldn't care less. just make sure its in the vein, and you use a 18 gauge 1.5" pin. that hurts less.

as for the heart. i said what's wrong with an enlarged heart? you said that you only get one. you retard. how coluld extra blood and oxygen flow through your body be a bad thing?

i know how, if you don't research, an enlarged heart will kill you.

by the way,

NOW

there is no need for this at all,he didnt respond to you in a nasty way at all.........
no flaming............

[Booz]

hwhere i agree that research is best done and should be ADVISED to do for yourself this is a no flame forum and it is not needed.................

[Booz]

I guess this means we can all put him on ignore. . .

you can behave yourself aswell.....................