so we all know they both reduce water and estrogenic sides in their own ways. my question is what is the amount of time it takes for them to work. meaning if one were content with estrogen sides, when would I u have to take them and for how long to get a reduction in water etc. I'm 8 weeks into a 16 week prop eq cycle @ 700mg respectively and I am going on a 4 day cruise in 3 weeks. when should I start my nolva to get the bloat down. I know I'm holding about 15 pounds of water. I'm 236lbs., 14% bf, 5'7". what do u think? thanks