First Bicep Injections

**MAXIMA5** · 12-17-2006, 10:52 AM

For those of you who have never shot biceps...

I finally added bi's to the mix. So far so good.

I shot 3cc of prop/tren /winny oil Bilaterally into both bi's (1.5cc in each)

Went in like butter. No nerves, no veins. Smooth as hell.
Injected slowly, then massaged in the shower. A little pain but that's to be expected.
I'll do my arm workout today and repost tomorrow to let you know how bad the pain is. I'm expecting quite a biut because they're virgin muscles and I used prop and winny, which are notorious for being kind of painful.

I'll update tomorrow.

Over and out.

**ecivon** · 12-17-2006, 11:50 AM

Don't forget to post up tomorrow, or the next day Bro, on the pain levels. I'm into the end of the 2nd week of a prop/deca cycle eod and need a different location to poke. Have been doing just my quads and glutes and had planned to include my bi's and delts but for some reason this batch of prop has been especially painful. It is just getting a little more under control so am thinking of trying my bi's so am interested in hearing how it went for you.

**axemurderer187** · 12-17-2006, 01:52 PM

are the benefits of doing site injections really proven? I'm running a dbol /sust/deca cycle now. would site injections help my lacking areas? sorry for hijacking your thread but it's kinda related...

**Bigmax** · 12-17-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by axemurderer187

are the benefits of doing site injections really proven? I'm running a dbol/sust/deca cycle now. would site injections help my lacking areas? sorry for hijacking your thread but it's kinda related...

To answer all your questions...NO!!!

**axemurderer187** · 12-17-2006, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

To answer all your questions...NO!!!

lol. thanks

**Pac8541** · 12-17-2006, 03:41 PM

Subscribed. Anxious to hear how this goes for you. For whatever reason, I get nervous holding the pin over anything other than glutes, delts, and quads.

**MAXIMA5** · 12-18-2006, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by axemurderer187

are the benefits of doing site injections really proven? I'm running a dbol/sust/deca cycle now. would site injections help my lacking areas? sorry for hijacking your thread but it's kinda related...

The only benefit to spot injections is utilizing another site for a cycle that involves daily injections with multiple compounds. Using an extra site = less scar tissue build up in other areas from too frequent injections. If you are using long-ester hormones, no reason to even think about Bi's/Tri's, etc...

**MAXIMA5** · 12-18-2006, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Pac8541

Subscribed. Anxious to hear how this goes for you. For whatever reason, I get nervous holding the pin over anything other than glutes, delts, and quads.

I noticed some pain a couple hours after injection. Did 7 sets of heavy dumbell curls anyway last night. Doing my full bicep workout was out of the question, each rep stung a little at peak contraction, but it was a good pain. My main goal was to work the muscle a little bit.

This morning there is some pain, but it's barable. On a scale of 1-10. 1 being no pain, and 10 being immobilizing excrutiating pain, I would say this is a 4 or 5.

I don't regret using Bi's yet. We'll see how they feel tomorrow.

Also, I did notice a slight "pump" effect after shooting, but this is to be expected. There's more volume inside the muscle than there was before (Obviously - I just injected 1.5cc into each arm- not to mention there may be a swelling response because the muscle is not use to being injeced into).

I'm glad I split the 3cc and did not put all 3 into one arm. So far so good.
I'm also glad I waited for my body to acclimate to the three compounds before I tried biceps. If it was my first time using prop, I probably wouldn;t be able to use my arms right now.

**shrpskn** · 12-18-2006, 06:51 AM

^^Well??? How ya feeling today bud? ****EDIT****Question answered...thanks pal.

I'm curious as well...I'm yet to hit my bis, but I think they are long overdue, plus it would be nice to have another location to jab when I'm running ED injections.

-ShrpSkn

**shrpskn** · 12-18-2006, 06:54 AM

Thanks for the update...keep us posted...

**MAXIMA5** · 12-18-2006, 03:54 PM

OK, my right bicep hurts much worse than my left.
My left barely hurts at all.

It hurts to flex my right, and I notice the pain only when i straighten or bend my arm. I can barely notice any pain in my left - same amout of juice in the same spot - go figure.

Hopefully the pain gets better by tomorrow.

**Pac8541** · 12-18-2006, 04:22 PM

Do you think you went too much with 1.5cc's in each for the first time?

**ecivon** · 12-18-2006, 04:31 PM

I'm on my third set around of injection locations between quads and glutes and still quite a lot of pain. Just can't believe this batch of prop is so damned troublesome, will not be doing any bi's anytime soon for sure.

**MAXIMA5** · 12-18-2006, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Pac8541

Do you think you went too much with 1.5cc's in each for the first time?

I hope not. They took it pretty easy, and i injected extra slowly and massaged in the shower. I may have overworked them. We'll see how they feel tomorrow

**MAXIMA5** · 12-18-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by ecivon

I'm on my third set around of injection locations between quads and glutes and still quite a lot of pain. Just can't believe this batch of prop is so damned troublesome, will not be doing any bi's anytime soon for sure.

u migh to want to add delts to give your quads and glutes more time to recover.

**guest589745** · 12-18-2006, 05:13 PM

I havent done biceps yet, just glutes/quads. Hope thier as easy as yours.

**Pac8541** · 12-18-2006, 09:21 PM

Good info, thanks. I've already got six sites that I've been working over the last 7 weeks and will add winny to the mix in another 2. I'd like to find another few injection sites since i'll be doing 2-3 ed at that point.

Glad to hear its gone so well for you. I can only hope mine do as well. I will say this: the prop I'm using is fvcking fantastic. No discomfort or pain AT ALL. That makes all this soooo much easier. Cheers bro.

**MAXIMA5** · 12-19-2006, 06:15 AM

Right bicep felt like $hit last night.
Feeling better this morning. Still painful to flex.

**shrpskn** · 12-19-2006, 10:46 AM

Thanks for the updates...hopefully the soreness should start to subside soon.

-ShrpSkn

**C_Bino** · 12-19-2006, 03:10 PM

Just a heads up. I would never shoot biceps then go work biceps, isnt a good idea. I mean as you said yourself you couldnt even do the full workout. Thats only gonna hinder your gains in the end man.
I shoot the muscle I worked the day before so it has a while to recover from any pain associated with the injection. Im workin legs today so I will shoot right quad tonight after the workout and left tomorrow etc.

**Pac8541** · 12-19-2006, 03:38 PM

I shoot the muscle I worked the day before so it has a while to recover from any pain associated with the injection. Im workin legs today so I will shoot right quad tonight after the workout and left tomorrow etc

That makes sense, never really thought about it that way. Everyone else seems to recommend working the muscle group you shot that day in order to work out the kinks or whatever... I've never had a problem with being so sore I couldn't get a good workout following the injection but what you're saying makes perfect sense.

**MAXIMA5** · 12-19-2006, 05:01 PM

I always thought you were supposed to work the muscle right after injection. Leg day doesnt bother me at all when I do this, but delts,biceps, triceps all seem to hinder my workouts when i shoot pre-workout.

Maybe I'll take Bino's suggestion and shoot the day after.

What do you guys think about pec injections? Is it worth the pain?

**MAXIMA5** · 12-19-2006, 05:29 PM

I have a theory why my right bicep hurts and my left doesnt.

Keep in mind I mixed oil-based Winny, Prop, and Tren .
The tren is darker and tends to settle with gravity at the bottom of the syringe.

I shot my left bicep first and injected slowly.

My theory is that most of the tren settled near the needle while I was shooting the first half of the contents of the syringe and went into my left bicep, and most of the prop and winny went into my right bicep, thus causing more pain.

**shrpskn** · 12-19-2006, 05:50 PM

Sounds like a possiblity...

I'm going to jab my bicept tonight..just 1cc though. It'll be my 1st poke on the bis.
Got some new pins in today...1" 23s...I've been using 1.5" pins. Seeing I got the 1" pins I'm going to give it a shot.
Until now I've always rotated my sites as follows: r delt, l delt, r quad, l quad, r glute, l glute...It'll be nice to have two more sites to hit when I'm in an ED injection routine...hope they take well to it...I'm sure I'll be fine.

Just running cyp and EQ right now, so at least it's the less painful type of compounds. I got to hand it to ya MAXIMA5 for breaking in a virgin muscle with a combination such as you did...I don't think I would have done it...prop and winny in the same barrel in a virgin muscle and 3cc's on top of that...takes a lil courage IMO.

-ShrpSkn

**C_Bino** · 12-19-2006, 09:06 PM

Pec injections are fine. I dont find they hurt too much to be honest.
My rotation is:
Delts
Right Quad
Left Quad
Pecs
Lats or Bis
Right Glute
Left Glute

My trainign schedule relative to that is.
Quads
Off
Pecs/Tris
Off
Back/Bis
Off
Delts/Calves

**MAXIMA5** · 12-20-2006, 06:59 AM

Thanks Bino, I'll have to try that

**MAXIMA5** · 12-20-2006, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

I got to hand it to ya MAXIMA5 for breaking in a virgin muscle with a combination such as you did...I don't think I would have done it...prop and winny in the same barrel in a virgin muscle and 3cc's on top of that...takes a lil courage IMO.

-ShrpSkn

Now that you say it like that - what the hell was I thinking? lol

**shrpskn** · 12-20-2006, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by MAXIMA5

Now that you say it like that - what the hell was I thinking? lol

Eh, we all make mistakes at some points or another...trial & error brother...it's one of the many ways of the game.

BTW, I did my first bi injection last night...1cc of test cyp...went better than I thought...great to have two more sites to hit now...thanks for the inspirational thread.

-ShrpSkn

**Phil ORourke** · 12-20-2006, 11:10 AM

great thread

**MAXIMA5** · 12-20-2006, 02:37 PM

No pain in either bicep today. I feel great. Now I just have to fine-tune my injection/workout schedule

**shrpskn** · 12-21-2006, 08:59 AM

^^This is good to hear...mine took well to their first ever pokes as well...now I have a total of 8 sites to work with now.

Thanks,

-ShrpSkn

**MAXIMA5** · 12-21-2006, 03:30 PM

Always happy to be the guinea pig.

**Pac8541** · 12-22-2006, 03:27 AM

Well, please allow me to join the club: just stuck .75mg of prop in each bicep. No problems, just like you said Maxima5 although I will admit to some mild discomfort while injecting. Not pain, just an odd feeling. Been a while since I've popped a virgin!

Like has already been mentioned, thanks for the push in the right direction. We'll see how things feel tomorrow.

**MAXIMA5** · 12-22-2006, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Pac8541

just like you said Maxima5 although I will admit to some mild discomfort while injecting. Not pain, just an odd feeling. Been a while since I've popped a virgin!
.

I also noticed a weird feeling running down the inside of my arm to my elbow while I injected.

How do they feel when you flex?

**Pac8541** · 12-22-2006, 06:14 AM

They feel like I just got done with about 3 high rep sets. Haven't been to the gym yet today but arms are on the schedule so I'll get to work the kinks out some. Right now, several hours later, doesn't bother me at all.

**Pac8541** · 12-22-2006, 08:22 AM

Just got back from the gym where I did 9 sets for biceps and another 4 for forearms. No difficulty whatsoever with any of the exercises or feeling like I couldn't get a good contraction out of the muscle. I have no pain at the moment but tomorrow will be the more realistic test I think. Then again, I only did half of what maxima5 did per bicep. I'm just glad I got past the mental part of it and can now work on getting the muscle used to things.

**fLgAtOr** · 12-22-2006, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by MAXIMA5

No pain in either bicep today. I feel great. Now I just have to fine-tune my injection/workout schedule

Good luck with finding out what works best for you.

I'll shoot in the morning and then work that b.p. later that evening...Don't seem to get much pain. Total volume probably has something to do with this as well. And if I shoot after, it feels like the muscle is more tense and its more painful to get the needle through. To each his own though. Let us know which you like better.

**Tbone1975** · 12-22-2006, 10:53 AM

I'm doing a cycle of supertest and tren ace. Before this cycle I was only injecting glutes, quads, and delts. Thanks to everyday injections and some f*cked up pain from the supertest for a while (it did subside), I'm now doing glutes, quads, delts, pecs, biceps, triceps, and lats. I like all of them. Lats felt super. Only problem was it was hard for me to reach, so I didn't aspirate . I think I can work on that though.

**MAXIMA5** · 12-22-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

And if I shoot after, it feels like the muscle is more tense and its more painful to get the needle through. To each his own though. Let us know which you like better.

Bino suggested shooting after working the bodypart. So, today i tried working tri's, then shooting.

Didnt work too well for me. like you said, it felt like i was injecting into a brick on my right tri. plunger wouldnt move at all, so I had to re-stick in the other tricep head.

For me, I like shooting in the mornings, and that's when i usually workout. Mental edge I guess. I think the only reason my first bicep workout was painful and lagged was because it was my first stick in each bicep. Tomorrow I'm going to shoot before workout and see how they feel. Then I'll think about restructuring my schedules.

**Tbone1975** · 12-22-2006, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by MAXIMA5

Bino suggested shooting after working the bodypart. So, today i tried working tri's, then shooting.

Didnt work too well for me. like you said, it felt like i was injecting into a brick on my right tri. plunger wouldnt move at all, so I had to re-stick in the other tricep head.

For me, I like shooting in the mornings, and that's when i usually workout. Mental edge I guess. I think the only reason my first bicep workout was painful and lagged was because it was my first stick in each bicep. Tomorrow I'm going to shoot before workout and see how they feel. Then I'll think about restructuring my schedules.

I've noticed that effect before too MAXIMA5. I squated heavy a few times then injected into the body part with less than pleasant outcomes but once I had nasty effects. After squating I injected the super t with tren ace into my glute. After a few days, it swelled up with a nice knot. A lot of that had to do with the super t, but I do think some of it had to do with injecting into the body part I just worked. It is interesting too. As I experienced nasty pain and what not when injecting the super t in the glute, I noticed that injecting pretty much as high up on the glute as possible helps me a lot. Like....it almost looks like you're really gonna hit something you don't want to with that 1.5 inch pin because it's at the very top of the glute, but that baby goes right in, and so far, no pain at all after injections. I'm sure it was also a combo of my muscles getting used to the super t.