Need Advice

**Obviously.** · 12-21-2006, 06:15 PM

Ok background info, I'm 19, been obsessively working out since I was 14, I'm 5"9 205lbs and around 14 - 15% body fat.

My goal is to be 210lbs and 8% bodyfat, I have in the past taken 2 cycles, which were small for even beginner cycles, first one was Test Cyp and I did 8 weeks of just that with PCT, second of just EQ and I did that again for only 8 weeks.

The cycle I've been advised to do by a few people is a 15 week enanthate cycle kicked off with d-bol for the first 5 weeks, 500mg enanthate a week and 20mg a day of the d-bol for the 5 weeks I'd be on it.

so the advice I need is should I do this cycle? if not what should I do?

Also just thought I'd throw in a pic for come critical analysis...this was me when I toned down to about 190lbs

looking forward to the advice

**KeepingItBalanced** · 12-21-2006, 06:21 PM

Come on bro, read the rules. no UGL or prices on the open forum

edit per post bellow

**Snrf** · 12-21-2006, 06:25 PM

yeah you shouldnt quote them either, just tell him what he did an hit the bad post button

**Obviously.** · 12-21-2006, 06:28 PM

ok sorry about that, was my frist post, I editted the original post now there's just the quote sitting there, my bad sorry about that

**Haro3** · 12-21-2006, 06:30 PM

id do 12 weeks test 50mg dbol for 6 weeks. nice phsyique by the way.

**Obviously.** · 12-21-2006, 06:32 PM

why 12 week instead of 15? 15 just redundant? and thx but I'm not done with the physique it'll be god like when I'm done =D

**Haro3** · 12-21-2006, 06:48 PM

12 is jus kinda rule of thumb. u could do 15 but alot of members say gains slow/stop after 10-12 weeks. it wouldnt hurt u to go to 15. but i would run the dbol at no less than 40mg but thats me.

**kynetguy** · 12-21-2006, 06:53 PM

at 19 you shouldnt have two cycles under your belt kid. . .

**Obviously.** · 12-21-2006, 06:54 PM

yeah well I'd be getting 100 tabs 20mgs each so that would use up the bottle a little better anyways...I got a guy who knows quite a bit that I'm good buddies with I just kinda want some second opinions, alright thx man

**Obviously.** · 12-21-2006, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by kynetguy

at 19 you shouldnt have two cycles under your belt kid. . .

Yeah I know, I got started a little early, luckily I got blessed on the genetics front and I got a jump start on puberty so I don't think I did any damage with the previous two. but that's the past, I know it now, didn't know it then.

**Haro3** · 12-21-2006, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Obviously.

Yeah I know, I got started a little early, luckily I got blessed on the genetics front and I got a jump start on puberty so I don't think I did any damage with the previous two. but that's the past, I know it now, didn't know it then.

yea nothin u can do. jus ignore the "ur to young" parrots. u'll be alright get ur blood work done and pct after ur cycles.

**kynetguy** · 12-21-2006, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Obviously.

Yeah I know, I got started a little early, luckily I got blessed on the genetics front and I got a jump start on puberty so I don't think I did any damage with the previous two. but that's the past, I know it now, didn't know it then.

my cock didnt stop growing until I was about 22-23 and I hit puberty early as well. Man, I hope you didnt stunt its growth....

Well, after two cycles, if you were going to cause any damage I would say its likely done. At least you were smart enough to do PCT.

**Obviously.** · 12-21-2006, 07:06 PM

ok thx for the info about yur cock...and yur concern for mine...but I didn't post this thread to get critism on my past, I posted it to get advice for the future, so you can stop tryin to draw attention to yourself and get over your self esteem issues in other ways =) thx

**kynetguy** · 12-21-2006, 07:43 PM

ok then. . .

1-12 Test Prop 75mg ED
5-12 Anavar 60-80mg ED
1-12 Arimidex .25mg ED
500 IU HCG every 5 days (keep the boys from shrinking so bad)
14-17 PCT

Good stregth gains, minimal to zero bloat. And your gains will be solid. Since you are only looking to gain 5 lbs. You will likely add 10-15 though, but it will be lean keepable gains.

Better?

**2bshredded** · 12-21-2006, 08:58 PM

Much better, too much cock talk going on.

**Haro3** · 12-21-2006, 09:00 PM

i dont think u need hcg with that cycle. descent lean cycle tho. might be kinda $$ with that much var if u dont have a cheap way of getting it. if not u could go with winni even. but test/dbol u'll have a LESS likely time getting leaner on it although it can be done. maybe try test/dbol winni at the end....? might be descent for ya. im jus finishin up that cycle i would be leaner yet but my diet has gone to shit the past two weeks

**GHO5T** · 12-21-2006, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Obviously.

Ok background info, I'm 19, been obsessively working out since I was 14, I'm 5"9 205lbs and around 14 - 15% body fat.

My goal is to be 210lbs and 8% bodyfat, I have in the past taken 2 cycles, which were small for even beginner cycles, first one was Test Cyp and I did 8 weeks of just that with PCT, second of just EQ and I did that again for only 8 weeks.

The cycle I've been advised to do by a few people is a 15 week enanthate cycle kicked off with d-bol for the first 5 weeks, 500mg enanthate a week and 20mg a day of the d-bol for the 5 weeks I'd be on it.

so the advice I need is should I do this cycle? if not what should I do?

Also just thought I'd throw in a pic for come critical analysis...this was me when I toned down to about 190lbs

looking forward to the advice

hey bro, my suggestions or advise will be solely based on your goals you have stated in your post.

with that said, the proposed cycle you have outlined containing test e and dbol IMO doesnt fit into what your goals are, which if i read correctly you want to loose BF%

Taking that into consideration i would suggest a

prop 75mg/ed
winni 50mg/ed

IMO this fits in better considering your goals, and also it would be in your best interest to get your diet spot on (as far as cutting goes) as this will be the determining factor how much BF you loose and also cardio/training. And duration of cycle IMO anywhere from 8-10 weeks would suffice.

**mickdiesel** · 12-21-2006, 11:11 PM

by the way I think ur way less thab 14-15 % bf. I'd go with about 7-8. my boy is 6 and I was 11 in college when I wrestled and I was preety close to that but ur arms look a tad more cut and obliques look a lil bit more defined. to put it in perspective chuck lidell fights at 16 (at least his last fight) and u look way diff han chuck lidell.