The Perfect Beginner Cycle

[shortyepic]

I left the dbol kickstart out because its mostly water weight...

Testosterone Cypionate (Testabol Depot 200) 250mg twice a week for 12 weeks.

Deca-Durabolin (Decabol 250) 300mg once a week for 10 weeks.

HCG 500IU's every 3 days, start 3 days before last test shot, inject in love handles using insulin needle for 20 days

PCT (start after HCG)
Day 1: Clomid 300mg, Nolva 40mg
Week 1: Clomid 100mg, Nolva 40mg
Week 2: Clomid 50mg, Nolva 40mg
Week 3: Nolva 20mg
Week 4: Nolva 20mg

STATS 5'7 155lbs 15% bf with diet in check

[t-gunz]

perfect cycle would be test E @500mg/w for 12 weeks to see how your body reacts.. 1 compound is enough.. followed by a good PCT...

[outlawtas]

perfect cycle would be test E @500mg/w for 12 weeks to see how your body reacts.. 1 compound is enough.. followed by a good PCT...

period.

[t-gunz]

ohh and btw you can put alot more mass on than jiust 155lb i'm not flaming you... trying to help you out... good luck

[GHO5T]

I left the dbol kickstart out because its mostly water weight...

Testosterone Cypionate (Testabol Depot 200) 250mg twice a week for 12 weeks.

Deca-Durabolin (Decabol 250) 300mg once a week for 10 weeks.

HCG 500IU's every 3 days, start 3 days before last test shot, inject in love handles using insulin needle for 20 days

PCT (start after HCG)
Day 1: Clomid 300mg, Nolva 40mg
Week 1: Clomid 100mg, Nolva 40mg
Week 2: Clomid 50mg, Nolva 40mg
Week 3: Nolva 20mg
Week 4: Nolva 20mg

STATS 5'7 155lbs 15% bf with diet in check

looks like you know how to cycle bro, i mean the cycle you have outlined looks good.

but since its your first cycle, and as the above bros mentioned, it might be in your interest to go with just one aas compound. Test e or c, reason being for a first cycle, one aas compound alongside a spot on diet and training regime would be enough to put on some good size (anywhere from 10-25lbs)

you can run whatever kind of cycle you want bro, but IMO go with the test e or c only for 12 weeks, save the deca for your second.

[shortyepic]

looks like you know how to cycle bro, i mean the cycle you have outlined looks good.

but since its your first cycle, and as the above bros mentioned, it might be in your interest to go with just one aas compound. Test e or c, reason being for a first cycle, one aas compound alongside a spot on diet and training regime would be enough to put on some good size (anywhere from 10-25lbs)

you can run whatever kind of cycle you want bro, but IMO go with the test e or c only for 12 weeks, save the deca for your second.

i honestly plan to only do 1 cycle... so i hope adding the deca will add to the lbs

[GHO5T]

i honestly plan to only do 1 cycle... so i hope adding the deca will add to the lbs

i understand bro, but i know alot of bros (including myself) that said the exact same thing. And now im planning my 5th cycle starting this january. point being its hard to stop once you start.

[Haro3]

i understand bro, but i know alot of bros (including myself) that said the exact same thing. And now im planning my 5th cycle starting this january. point being its hard to stop once you start.

agreed. theres no such thing as "one cycle" also at 155 15% ur diet probably isnt "in check" or it could be better.......buttttttt i think i'd stick with test only or test/dbol at the most. jus cuz more compounds isnt beter especially not early in the game on ur first cycle. take it easy and simple and try deca on ur next cycle. cuz most likely...you'll have a next cycle good luck in what u choose

[Apex]

In my first cycle now - was planning to run Test w/ EQ. - the cats on here said drop the EQ - glad I did!

[ShowKidd]

perfect cycle would be test E @500mg/w for 12 weeks to see how your body reacts.. 1 compound is enough.. followed by a good PCT...

250mg every 3 days, or 4 days? no dbol? i think i am going to run that one because my first cycle was a 4 weeker and i wanna experience a couple 12 weekers.

[Act of God]

I'm going to have to agree with everyone that you should stick to test for the first cycle. 500mg/week of test should get you some nice results if you get everything else in check.

5'7 155 isn't that big, you could definitely pack on some true mass naturally (especially at 15% bf) before you cross over into needle land. How old are you?

[shortyepic]

I'm going to have to agree with everyone that you should stick to test for the first cycle. 500mg/week of test should get you some nice results if you get everything else in check.

5'7 155 isn't that big, you could definitely pack on some true mass naturally (especially at 15% bf) before you cross over into needle land. How old are you?

im 23, and i wanna enjoy being big while im young. I figure by the time I gain mass naturally ill be out of the game.

[Jakspro]

Another quick question, how long have you been training?

[shortyepic]

Another quick question, how long have you been training?

little over a year

[cfiler]

little over a year

Not long enough.

Seriously, I'd try to build up a better base (You are way too small to start.) Train naturally, and follow a better diet before running a cycle.

Then when you are ready...

Test only is best for 1st cycles. Like said above (Test only 250-500mgs weekly for 10-12 weeks.) I would not suggest running any aas compound with it for a first cycle.

[shortyepic]

Not long enough.

Seriously, I'd try to build up a better base. Train naturally, and follow a better diet before running a cycle.

Then when you are ready...

Test only is best for 1st cycles. Like said above (Test only 250-500mgs weekly for 10-12 weeks.) I would not suggest running any aas compound with it for a first cycle.

dont u think id gain more mass stacking? i only wanna do 1 cycle and i want to go big. and why would someone recommend test e over c

[GHO5T]

dont u think id gain more mass stacking? i only wanna do 1 cycle and i want to go big. and why would someone recommend test e over c

For a first cycle using test e/c as your main aas will suffice, trust me bro. Running this test based cycle alongside a solid diet and training regime will yield you some impressive results. Since your body isnt used to any of this, the sudden surge of test combined with diet and training well you get what im saying.... you will gain trust me.

As far as stacking goes, IMO stacking is best used as you gain more and more experience with aas and as you have more cycles under your belt. For example, a first cycle should contain only test e or c, a second you can incorporate deca+test, third cycle you can add eq+deca+test, so on and so forth.

I know right now your thinking, the more i use (compounds, dosages, etc..) the more results i will get, thus the bigger i will get. But trust me bro, this is far from true, as you can gain the same amount on your first cycle with just test as you would with test+deca.

IMO the money will be better spent on food rather than deca

[GHO5T]

im 23, and i wanna enjoy being big while im young. I figure by the time I gain mass naturally ill be out of the game.

i believe your using this as an excuse and you think it makes it okay for you to use aas. Not true at all bro, your only 23, i guarantee that if the appropriate actions are taken on your part as far as diet and training are concerned, in two years time you will be able to put on a considerable amount of weight/mass naturally.

Then this will be an ideal time for you to consider aas, you will have a more solid foundation to work with, and also you will have a more profound knowledge of aas usage (if you continue researching).

And then you can run an educated proper cycle, which IMO will benefit you more.

[Apex]

im 23, and i wanna enjoy being big while im young. I figure by the time I gain mass naturally ill be out of the game.

No Quick Fix Partner

[shortyepic]

i believe your using this as an excuse and you think it makes it okay for you to use aas. Not true at all bro, your only 23, i guarantee that if the appropriate actions are taken on your part as far as diet and training are concerned, in two years time you will be able to put on a considerable amount of weight/mass naturally.

Then this will be an ideal time for you to consider aas, you will have a more solid foundation to work with, and also you will have a more profound knowledge of aas usage (if you continue researching).

And then you can run an educated proper cycle, which IMO will benefit you more.

you are right but in 2 years i will be 25 and have other goals besides pullin girls and lookin good. i also think i did quite a good amount of research to put this cycle together...it is pretty good dont u think?

[MuscleScience]

i honestly plan to only do 1 cycle... so i hope adding the deca will add to the lbs

I think we have all said that, once the genie is out of the bottle you cant put the b^tch back in.

[fLgAtOr]

you are right but in 2 years i will be 25 and have other goals besides pullin girls and lookin good. i also think i did quite a good amount of research to put this cycle together...it is pretty good dont u think?

Out fo the game? What game are you in at 23? Give me a break.

We live a lifestyle around here. And the goal is to better ourselves. The term "betterment" applies to appearance as well as health. And as we get older we realize more and more how important the "health" part is.

Don't knock the advice given to you above. These gentlemen are trying to guide you through this "lifestyle" (one in which you clearly aren't interested) in the safest way possible.

You've already set your mind though. So I guess the only advice for you now is, be safe.

[Act of God]

We're not trying to bag on you bro, but you really are coming off like you just want some quick fix to make you superman. One cycle really isn't going to transform your body "just like that". As noted above, this is a lifestyle. You have barely any training experience, you weigh 155lbs, and you don't seem to want to listen to all of us who are trying really hard to help you and steer you in the right direction.

23 and worried about the game? Come on man, most men hit their bodybuilding peak around 30. You're still a baby physically.

Do you want to post some pictures? Let's see where you are now, that could help out a bit. Maybe you are in really really good shape for your experience.

[MuscleScience]

Shortyepic,

No offense but really have no Idea what you are doing or talking about. I have two degrees in physiology and am going for a third. I hadnt the foggest clue about AAS when I did my first cycle. I know alot about exercise physiology and steroid chemisty since I have a minor in chem with my first degree. But I had no idea about any of this stuff and how you can screw up big and waste lots of time and money and maybe health if you dont listen to others. You must have an open mind to what the more experiance users on here are telling you. I myself have been lifting for 11 years pretty hardcore and Im just now ready for AAS. You may think you know it all and feel that others dont. The way I see it yeah I have a pretty good education and I can tell someone alot about exercise. But I feel that practical experiance is just as good as a University education or some extinsive research. You will never hear me give any advice on AAS usage as I am not experianced enought to give advice. Im educated enought to understand what this is all about. These guys on here are pretty smart. If they were giving out wrong info the rest of us that are in the know would quickly weed them out. There is no way that I would ever question anything these guys are saying since you have never done this before. Just listen and be open minded and you will find out with time how ignorant you were looking back, I know I did and still am.

[Apex]

You want your pecker to work when your older like me - right?

Listen to the cats on here - sh*t - I couldn't even grow a full beard until 25, let mother nature, natural training, & patience do for you what AAS can NEVER do -become a MAN first!

[Mista Massive]

sorry, but have to agree with the boys. stick to natural first. once you master that, then move on.

[t-gunz]

i think he's got his mind set... no point trying to change it!!! all that i can say is good luck

[Anaboxa34]

i think he's got his mind set... no point trying to change it!!! all that i can say is good luck

i think your right... but i hope you take these guys advice and only stick to the test. My first cycle i took 250 mg/week 10 weeks of omnadren and put on 25 lbs kept about 18. This was a few years ago. I had the same frame of mind you did at the time "only one cycle", but as soon as your coming off your first you'll probly be planning your second, so i would def stick to one compound(test). Good luck with whatever u choose.

[kj101]

You can make some really good gains naturally if you learn the right way to train and diet. It will be so hard to go back to being natural once you do a cycle. It is very important to learn what kind of gains your own body can make naturally.