primeing

[tvd220]

Anybody have any experience on the best ways to prime the body before a cycle? I have done some searches, but wanted to get some personel opinions and experiences.

[HORSE~]

Give this a read it was posted by Marcus......Awsome read great info


This is a conversation i had with ceratin bb's from this board, i know they wont mind me posting this because it was mention anyway, pls take your time and read this its an excellent way of creating an enviroment for muscle tissue to grow at rates you will never seen before,

first prime-

You will need to work off a basic diet one which your maintaining on, this is the diet what you prime from, its all about confusing the body, Ive found that carb cycling is the best way to prime, it also keeps hold of valuable muscle tissue if its done correctly, i am sure your in fine tune with your body so i don't think losing muscle tissue will be a problem to you, as you carb cycle you must listen to the body and react accordingly,

The best way Ive found is 3-5 days low carb 40% less than your maintenance diet then followed by 1 day high carb 15% higher than the maintenance diet, you will have to adjust the low carb days to suit your body but don't go near 7 days low carbs, a common problem with reducing carbs is that over time the metabolic rate can and will begin to adapt, when carbs stays low for an extended period of time usually at the 7 day mark and up, fat cells attempt to hold on by resisting the release of fatty acids, levels of lipoprotien lipase tend to rise and thyroid levels drop, these both effect overall basal metabolism and are part of the starvation response which off sets reductions in energy intake and is very common to muscle wastage, so adjust to your body's response but in my opinion don't go 7 days or more,

The one high carb day should be introduced around 3-5 day mark of low carbs, the high carb day at around day 3-5 this interrupts the starvation response which restores thyroid levels back to normal while also suppressing the fat storing enzyme lipoprotein ( which rises after day 7 of a lower carb intake) which results in no muscle tissue wastage,

Also if you catch this right at when the glycogen levels drop which is around 3-5 day mark and you follow this by the high carb day with an increase of calories even higher than what the body had been use to previous to the reduction, the body responds by increasing thermogenesis which in turn helps the whole process,

Everybody is different but ive got alot of personally studies which show muscle wastage on carb cycling at the 7 day mark and up, the body re-adjusts itself at this stage and holds onto the fat cells while using the precious muscle tissue as energy, which in turn the individual will lose more muscle tissue than stopping short this process at 3-5 day mark of the low carb,

The key is tricking the metabolism into losing fat and creating an emviroment for growth by rotating carbs but not letting the body trigger the starvation response which does occur at and around day 7 and upwards, also Ive found that before any type of carb cycling you must of establish a basic diet which you have ran for a number of weeks in where the body isn't gaining or losing any size just maintaining what its got, this is very important because this established diet is what you work off so we get the body to respond the best by dropping bf and holding onto muscle tissue,

As you carb cycle your body goes into a environment were muscle tissue can be built very fast, just look how much you put on after a contest, this whole process you take advantage of and put it together with a short cycle and hit all comounds hard and fast, an increase in calories is needed everyday of the cycle, you must support the high amount of AAS and growth the body wants to grow, as soon as you start the cycle your body is very anabolic so take advantage of this and hit it hard, growth comes on fast, at around day 18-20 the appetite starts to slow this is the body's response to the increase in calories so at about a week before this start to take B12 at 1000mcg ed and you will get more growth out of the cycle, normally for up to around day 30+ , Personally i wouldn't do a high dose cycle for 6 weeks, i would just do around 30 days,

training -
As for the training for the cycle its got to be very intense heavy drop sets to failure(DY style) this kind of training you cant keep up nor can you keep it up mentally this is why the whole cycle and training is for 30 days and then it changes and even after you change the training the body still grows because of the drop in intense training triggers growth through the rest its getting, the whole process is amazing and the feeling is untrue, i still get gains like when i first started with this way of training and cycling, this is when you start the cycle not during priming!!

cycle/dose-
The dose what you would use would depend on your cycle history and dosages and results, this would detirmine what kind of dose you would use, take advantage of the state of the body and enviroment you have created at the begining of the cycle, hit it hard with the right compounds and results are outstanding,

Dorian was a big believer in this type of cycling and training and his crew gave me alot of tips in the whole process, DY was in the gym straight after the Mr O taking advantage of the whole process and he use to put on over 30lbs some years,

If the correct prime for your body is done and the right compounds are used for a short period you will never go back to the norm of cycling.

protien -
All this talk about carbs................well while priming protien needs to be increased because there is potential of some muscle loss if the correct prime isnt in place and the required amount of added protien isnt there,

Because the lack of insulin while priming protien needs to be increased enough so keep protien high and amino acids, if muscle loss occurs the metabolism will shift and everything then needs to be adjust to suit but this isnt what your after, simple eat more protien and give the body additional aminos that can be used as fuel so sparing muscle mass,

Essentially the body will more or less always burn aminos from foods rather than burn muscle tissue so increasing protien while lowering carbs is essential, so the carb cycling coupled with the increased protien creates the enviroment your after before a cycle, your opening a gate for muscle tissue to grow so when the prime ends feed feed feed feed the body and the short cycle

This overall procedure puts your body into a very anabolic environment for muscle tissue to grow couple this with a short burst cycle and growth is amazing, but i must stress the prime as to be done correctly to take full advantage
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[marcus300]

You took the words right out of my mouth, thanks horse for posting that.

[tvd220]

thanks guys, very good