Thoughts on Cycle and PCT...

[DCB83]

I'm 23 years old. 6'1 205lbs Don't know my bf%, look at my avatar.
I've done two cycles before:
First: D-bol,Omnadren,Winstrol
Second: D-bol,Sust,Deca,Winstrol.

Cycle:
14 week cycle
Prop 200 mg/week 1-4 (Kick start)
Prop 150 mg/week 1-12
Sust 625 mg/week 1-12
Deca 250 mg/week 1-10
Winstrol 100 mg/day 9-14

PCT:
6 weeks (Starting right after last winstrol pill)
HCG 500 I.U/Day 1-3
Nolva 20 mg/day 1-6
Clomid 100 mg/1-6

[rafael]

im doin omandren 250 now @ 500 a week. what should i expect from this...since youve done it.

[DCB83]

im doin omandren 250 now @ 500 a week. what should i expect from this...since youve done it.

Really depends on you bro.
At the time, I had anxiety problems so my diet wasn't so good.But still managed to gain 15lbs and lose some fat.

[GHO5T]

I'm 23 years old. 6'1 205lbs Don't know my bf%, look at my avatar.
I've done two cycles before:
First: D-bol,Omnadren,Winstrol
Second: D-bol,Sust,Deca,Winstrol.

Cycle:
14 week cycle
Prop 200 mg/week 1-4 (Kick start)
Prop 150 mg/week 1-12
Sust 625 mg/week 1-12
Deca 250 mg/week 1-10
Winstrol 100 mg/day 9-14

PCT:
6 weeks (Starting right after last winstrol pill)
HCG 500 I.U/Day 1-3
Nolva 20 mg/day 1-6
Clomid 100 mg/1-6

There are numerous aspects of the proposed cycle that are off. I will point out some of them

1.) No reason to be running prop alongside sust, as sust contains prop.

2.) Sust needs to be admistered either E2D/E3d, administering the compound once a week IMO wont yield you good gains.

3.) The dosage of Deca is way to low, and you wont see any kind of gains from it especially since you have a couple cycles under your belt.

4.) Duration of Deca IMO is too short, IMO a full 12 weeks is needed and is paramount to see the full effects of the compound.


Just a few things to look at, and consider tweaking. IMO i believe it would be in your interest to further research the specific compounds you will be administering before you begin your cycle.

[DCB83]

There are numerous aspects of the proposed cycle that are off. I will point out some of them

1.) No reason to be running prop alongside sust, as sust contains prop.

2.) Sust needs to be admistered either E2D/E3d, administering the compound once a week IMO wont yield you good gains.

3.) The dosage of Deca is way to low, and you wont see any kind of gains from it especially since you have a couple cycles under your belt.

4.) Duration of Deca IMO is too short, IMO a full 12 weeks is needed and is paramount to see the full effects of the compound.


Just a few things to look at, and consider tweaking. IMO i believe it would be in your interest to further research the specific compounds you will be administering before you begin your cycle.

K.I'll do that.
I'm kinda freakin out, cuz i've been trying to come up with a cycle thats right for me but it seems i need help.
Looking for a cycle that will help build some mass and shed some fat aswell.
Im not too hot on taking deca or tren though.Don't like the sides and hate water retention.

[GHO5T]

K.I'll do that.
I'm kinda freakin out, cuz i've been trying to come up with a cycle thats right for me but it seems i need help.
Looking for a cycle that will help build some mass and shed some fat aswell.
Im not too hot on taking deca or tren though.Don't like the sides and hate water retention.

personally i dont believe in the build muscle and loose fat at the same time, just doesnt make any sense to me.

I suggest you go for a strict bulker or strict cutter, this way you will see more results and will end up gaining more than with the build muscle loose fat method. And IMO deca and tren are two of the most potent aas as far as building muscle goes, most of the sides can be dealt with if the appropriate measures are taken and IMO most of the sides of tren are over exaggerated and parroted.

Start out running tren ace at a low dose of 50mg/ed and see how you react, if you okay just bump up the dose accordingly I personally have ran it as high as 150mg/ed in my previous cutter and saw little to no sides.

water retention from deca is over exaggerated as well, IMO water ret from any aas compound comes down to diet, if you take some time and plan your diet to a higher degree than water ret shouldnt be that big of a problem.

[G-1000]

Cycle:
14 week cycle
Prop 200 mg/week 1-4 (Kick start) OK
Prop 150 mg/week 1-12 No need
Sust 625 mg/week 1-12 Up to 750mg
Deca 250 mg/week 1-10 up to 350-400mg
Winstrol 100 mg/day 9-14 ok

PCT:
6 weeks (Starting right after last winstrol pill) ok
HCG 500 I.U/Day 1-3 week 13 start
Nolva 20 mg/day 1- 6 40mg
Clomid 100 mg/1-6 300 200 100 50---------

[Swifto]

I'm 23 years old. 6'1 205lbs Don't know my bf%, look at my avatar.
I've done two cycles before:
First: D-bol,Omnadren,Winstrol
Second: D-bol,Sust,Deca,Winstrol.

Cycle:
14 week cycle
Prop 200 mg/week 1-4 (Kick start)
Prop 150 mg/week 1-12
Sust 625 mg/week 1-12
Deca 250 mg/week 1-10
Winstrol 100 mg/day 9-14

PCT:
6 weeks (Starting right after last winstrol pill)
HCG 500 I.U/Day 1-3
Nolva 20 mg/day 1-6
Clomid 100 mg/1-6

Surely you mean ED.

I dont feel the "Prop 150 mg/week 1-12" is needed though. The Sust will suffice IMHO.

What are you using, or what do you have on hand? For estrogenic/progestenic sides?

[DCB83]

Surely you mean ED.

I dont feel the "Prop 150 mg/week 1-12" is needed though. The Sust will suffice IMHO.

What are you using, or what do you have on hand? For estrogenic/progestenic sides?

Well in my last two cycles, I wasn't using anything for estrogenic/progestenic sides during my cycle. Didn't really have a problem with that.
What do you recommend?

[Swifto]

Well in my last two cycles, I wasn't using anything for estrogenic/progestenic sides during my cycle. Didn't really have a problem with that.
What do you recommend?

Buy some Letro and use it if needed.

I suggest Aromasin 12.5-25mg/ED.

[DCB83]

Buy some Letro and use it if needed.

I suggest Aromasin 12.5-25mg/ED.

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