4th Cycle

[elitetky]

I wish you buddies out there a merry xmas and happy new year 2007!
Please put advice and comments on my gear for this cycle i posted Thanks Dude's





Test C 1 - 15 weeks 600mg spilt up twice per week

Deca 1 - 14 weeks 600mg spilt up twice per week

Winny 1 - 6 weeks 50mg everyday

T3 7 - 15 weeks everyday

Letrozolo 1 - 15 weeks 0.625mg everyday

HCG 10 - 15 weeks 1000IU every week spilt up twice

PCT

Clomid 17 - 20 weeks (1st week 200mg) , (2nd week 150mg) , (3rd week 100mg) , (4th week 50mg) everyday

Clen 17 - 19 weeks 120mg everyday (alternating with Ephrine every 2 weeks)

Ehprine 19 - 21 weeks 60mg everyday (alternation with Clen every 2 weeks)

[Prada]

I would keep Test mgs higher then Deca and keep the winny for the end. Start the HCG a little later.

[G-1000]

Test C 1 - 15 weeks 600mg spilt up twice per week OK

Deca 1 - 14 weeks 600mg spilt up twice per week 500mg

Winny 1 - 6 weeks 50mg everyday 10-17

T3 7 - 15 weeks everyday ok what dose?

Letrozolo 1 - 15 weeks 0.625mg everyday Fine

HCG 10 - 15 weeks 1000IU every week spilt up twice OK

PCT

Clomid 17 - 20 weeks (1st week 200mg) , (2nd week 150mg) , (3rd week 100mg) , (4th week 50mg) everyday OK

Clen 17 - 19 weeks 120mg everyday (alternating with Ephrine every 2 weeks) OK

Ehprine 19 - 21 weeks 60mg everyday (alternation with Clen every 2 weeks) OK

[GHO5T]

I wish you buddies out there a merry xmas and happy new year 2007!
Please put advice and comments on my gear for this cycle i posted Thanks Dude's





Test C 1 - 15 weeks 600mg spilt up twice per week

Deca 1 - 14 weeks 600mg spilt up twice per week

Winny 1 - 6 weeks 50mg everyday

T3 7 - 15 weeks everyday

Letrozolo 1 - 15 weeks 0.625mg everyday

HCG 10 - 15 weeks 1000IU every week spilt up twice

PCT

Clomid 17 - 20 weeks (1st week 200mg) , (2nd week 150mg) , (3rd week 100mg) , (4th week 50mg) everyday

Clen 17 - 19 weeks 120mg everyday (alternating with Ephrine every 2 weeks)

Ehprine 19 - 21 weeks 60mg everyday (alternation with Clen every 2 weeks)

I would suggest that you discontinue administration of deca two weeks prior to your last shot of test e, so discontinue deca at week 13.

Winni IMO is better ran at the end, to harden up and solidy gains, running it six weeks at the end up to pct start time will suffice, say from weeks 12-17 which gives you a full 6 weeks.

A good kickstart compound you might want to consider rather than winni would be either dbol or drol, both make potent kickstarters.

HCG IMO isnt needed for this cycle, but it couldnt hurt, and running it at the end should be fine.

[GHO5T]

I would keep Test mgs higher then Deca and keep the winny for the end. Start the HCG a little later.

Care to explain why?

[G-1000]

Care to explain why?

Help to prevent deca dick.

[Swifto]

I've seen many report its better to drop off the very suppressive 19-Nor a fair few weeks before the testosterone dosage.

When I run Deca, or a 19-Nor for that matter, I'll be dropping it 5-6 weeks before the testosterone dosage, prior to beginning PCT.

[GHO5T]

Help to prevent deca dick.

Please tell me your kidding bro

[GHO5T]

I've seen many report its better to drop off the very suppressive 19-Nor a fair few weeks before the testosterone dosage.

When I run Deca, or a 19-Nor for that matter, I'll be dropping it 5-6 weeks before the testosterone dosage, prior to beginning PCT.

That could hold true, but you have to consider the bros full cycle length w/o pct is 15 weeks, if he were to discontinue deca 5-6 weeks prior to the discontinuation of the test dosage. He would end deca at week 9 or 10, and since deca takes quite some time to kick in, he wont have the sufficient time needed to see the full effects from the compound.

Considering this, this is why i suggested he discontinue use only 2 weeks prior to discontinuation of test. Giving him the sufficient amount of time to see the full effects from the compound, and enough time to gain from it as well.

[Dog-Slime]

I seriously doubt that he would get deca dick from something like that. I know people (Including myself on a dumb uninformed first cycle) who ran deca only and experienced little to no sexual disfunction. So IMO 600 test with 600 deca should be no prob

[Swifto]

That could hold true, but you have to consider the bros full cycle length w/o pct is 15 weeks, if he were to discontinue deca 5-6 weeks prior to the discontinuation of the test dosage. He would end deca at week 9 or 10, and since deca takes quite some time to kick in, he wont have the sufficient time needed to see the full effects from the compound.
Considering this, this is why i suggested he discontinue use only 2 weeks prior to discontinuation of test. Giving him the sufficient amount of time to see the full effects from the compound, and enough time to gain from it as well.

Then I would extend the cycle. There is no point in hindering PCT at all, if it may?

Extend the cycle and get the full benifits of Deca and its long ester and drop it 5-6 weeks proir to PCT. Then as to not risk a harder recovery time too.

[Swifto]

I seriously doubt that he would get deca dick from something like that. I know people (Including myself on a dumb uninformed first cycle) who ran deca only and experienced little to no sexual disfunction. So IMO 600 test with 600 deca should be no prob

Then you are the minority.

[G-1000]

Dace is very suppressive and running the test at a higher does does help fight sides.

Me my self get very shut down from deca or npp. If my test is not 2oomg over im limp for weeks. No get this tren does not effect my sex drive at all. with or without test.

[Prada]

Care to explain why?

Help to prevent deca dick.

Exactly

I seriously doubt that he would get deca dick from something like that. I know people (Including myself on a dumb uninformed first cycle) who ran deca only and experienced little to no sexual disfunction. So IMO 600 test with 600 deca should be no prob

Then you are the minority.

Right.

If you have no issues with "deca dick" nor recovering then by all means do a deca cycle, others get serious sides from it and therefore prefer to run Test at a slightly higher dose. Just like certain individuals even by running Test @ higher dose still get erectile dysfunctition and therefore never ever use Deca, thats at the other end of the spectrum. To each his own, especially if you like pleasing women.

[GHO5T]

I do understand that every bro will respond differently to different compounds. but IMO a mere 250mg/wk of test should be enough to keep your sex drive stable w/o any problems.

[G-1000]

I do understand that every bro will respond differently to different compounds. but IMO a mere 250mg/wk of test should be enough to keep your sex drive stable w/o any problems.

Yes but for most people it ant.

[Liftnainez]

I do understand that every bro will respond differently to different compounds. but IMO a mere 250mg/wk of test should be enough to keep your sex drive stable w/o any problems.

I completely agree. The adult testicles normally produce about 7-10 mg of testosterone daily. Which means 250 mg per week is an ample dose of "extra test to keep you hard" IMO

[elitetky]

Ok guys thanks for your recommendation i know what to do next CHEERS!
And happy new year 2007!

[andros00919]

Test C 1 - 15 weeks 600mg spilt up twice per week OK

Deca 1 - 14 weeks 600mg spilt up twice per week 500mg

Winny 1 - 6 weeks 50mg everyday 10-17

T3 7 - 15 weeks everyday ok what dose?

Letrozolo 1 - 15 weeks 0.625mg everyday Fine

HCG 10 - 15 weeks 1000IU every week spilt up twice OK

PCT

Clomid 17 - 20 weeks (1st week 200mg) , (2nd week 150mg) , (3rd week 100mg) , (4th week 50mg) everyday OK

Clen 17 - 19 weeks 120mg everyday (alternating with Ephrine every 2 weeks) OK

Ehprine 19 - 21 weeks 60mg everyday (alternation with Clen every 2 weeks) OK

This is your cycle!, follow step by step.