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    sashko is offline Junior Member
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    Where is my problem? (Gyno again)

    1-12 Cypionate 500 mg
    1-10 Deca 400 mg
    1-4 Anabol 30 mg per day
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    3-13 HCG 500 iu e3d
    Also I use Letro 0.25 daily and Cabaser (Cabergoline) 0.25 e4d
    It is 5-th week now and I got gyno. I was doing everything you advised me. Why I had got my gyno anyway? What I need to do?

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    I would bump the letro dose up, you could be gyno prone.

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    Letro doesnt make estrogen levels undectable. I know everybody says this but my BW has shown me twice that it doesnt.

    Up the letro dose, and I would start nolva as well, (while you drop the Deca ,)
    these progestin drugs like nadrolone is a bit on their own page as far as gyno is concerned.

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    So I don't need stop the cycle? Must I continue the cycle only with testosterone ?

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    if i ran a cycle like that...i would prolly run nolvadex along with proviron to prevent what youre talking about

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    deca causing progesterone related gyno maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    deca causing progesterone related gyno maybe?

    that's what i reckon too. letro should definately be taking care of the estrogen related sides. but progesterone is a hormonr all on its own. something i'll admit i know nearly nothing about.

    well that makes me wanna go research it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista Massive
    that's what i reckon too. letro should definately be taking care of the estrogen related sides. but progesterone is a hormonr all on its own. something i'll admit i know nearly nothing about.

    well that makes me wanna go research it now.
    cabergoline I believe would help you in this area and as an added benfit may significantly boost libido too!

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    May I boost Cabergoline dose up too? I think to use 0,5 mg e3d.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sashko
    May I boost Cabergoline dose up too? I think to use 0,5 mg e3d.
    That will be fine, but it will only lower prolactin levels.

    The only thing I know of that totally block progesterone is RU486(the morning after pill). This drug could have some sides in men though...

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    I thank that high prolactin level is the cause of progesterone activity. So I need quickly to lower prolactin level with cabergoline, isn't it?
    unfortunately, I can't get RU486

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    Quote Originally Posted by sashko
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    I thank that high prolactin level is the cause of progesterone activity. So I need quickly to lower prolactin level with cabergoline, isn't it?
    unfortunately, I can't get RU486
    Its not yust prolactin thats the problem, its progestin and metabolites from it that activate the progesterone recepter in the breast.

    Cabergoline is very effective at lower prolactin though, so it will help.

    Anyway, drop the deca for now, and up the doses of letro+cabergoline and hopefully your gyno symptoms should diminish.

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