Question About Lean Mass Cycle

[vitamind]

Sorry, for the repost. I realized in my initial post, I didn't say I was looking for advice/thoughts...

I'll be starting my 5th cycle soon and am focused on gaining lean mass. My previous cycle was TestP and TrenA which seemed to work pretty well in this regard, but my kidneys were feeling it towards the end. Anywho, here is what I am thinking.

WK 1-12 TestP 75mg/ed
WK 1-8 Tbol 60mg/ed
WK 8-12 Winstrol 50mg/ed (injected)
WK 1-12 Exemestane 20mg
WK 1-PCT Proviron 25mg/ed
Milk thistle for liver.

PCT will be Clomid, Nolva, and HCG. I've just used Clomid and Nolva in the past and dont think it worked too well at getting me back to normal fast enough (hence the Proviron and HCG additions).

My stats. 31 years old, lifting since...hell...16? 195lbs about 12-15%bf these days at 5'10". Was up to about 210 at one point when on cycle. I bloat and get the "moon face" easy, so I'm hoping the Proviron and exemestane will work on that. I have used liquidex and nolva during cycle before with some succes but the moon face was always there to a degree. Good diet currently, but a much cleaner one once I get started on this cycle. I'd like to add a little size but mainly try and keep what I get and not get the "monster bloated gorilla" look I have in the past.

I guess my questions are:
Do I need this much exemestane each day while also taking the proviron.
Is 25mg/ed of proviron enough? Should I go to 50?
Is using Winstrol after Tbol just beating a dead horse (or liver for that matter)?

All thoughts, criticisms, alternatives, flames welcome.
Thanks guys.

[vitamind]

...anyone...anyone...bueller...

[punk_bbuilder]

I think it looks pretty good myself..but am interested in some replies.

[vitamind]

As am I.

[Bigmax]

Both the tbol and winny are oral??

[vitamind]

no, the winny will be injected

[Alpha-Male]

i run about the same for my cutters, 'cept i opt for eq instead of tbol...i throw in 25mcg t3 as well, 5-6% easy with a strict diet, good cycle...

[moush]

bump this as i am interested in getting an answer vitamind's questions

[vitamind]

I'm starting to think that not many people have much experience with Exemestane (aromasin) as it is a relatively new product (at least from ARR)...

[Alpha-Male]

prolly cuz it's very potent and somewhat expensive (at least it used to be), and the proviron (and nolvadex) work just as well...the proviron i always use for it's added benefits...if you havent already bought it, you shouldnt really need it on that cycle, IMO...

[vitamind]

Havn't bought the Exemestane you mean, right, not Proviron? No I havn't bought the Exemestane yet (everything else is in route tho). It is expensive, which is why I asked. If I don't need it, I'd rather save the cash and go with either the nolv or liquidex.

Hmm..and upon further research, it appears that Exemestane, Liquidex and Proviron are all AI's. Theoretically I would be better suited to use a SERM (such as nolv) and the proviron (AI) to cover all my bases (and receptors). Thanks Alpha-Male, you just saved me probably several hundred dollars.

[Alpha-Male]

yeah, i should have prolly said that before, but you should try those first, and they should suffice, but simply evaluate your sides as you go...i'd start minimally, 20mg nolva 25mg prov (i personally only use pro and save nolva for pct but everyone's different)...good luck

[roodogg]

save the aromasin for pct. I ran aromasin for the first 3 weeks of pct @ 25mg's ed

[majorpecs]

I tried aromasin during cycle and from past experience it really seemed to hinder my gains, I'd run it during PCT only as roodogg said.

[vitamind]

Thanks guys. Now over to ARR...