Tren/Prop

[pete23]

I need some advice. Can someone tell me if i would get bigger gains stacking tren with testosterone propionate or doing the prop alone?

[fLgAtOr]

I need some advice. Can someone tell me if i would get bigger gains stacking tren with testosterone propionate or doing the prop alone?

Jeeze dude...Please dont' use tren, or run a cycle for that matter.

"Would using more steroids be more effective than using less steroids?"
Generally the answer is yes...Doesn't make it appropriate though, as sides also increase.

"Would adding a very powerful steroid in addition give me more results."
Hmmm...Well I guess this seems self explanatory to me, buuuut...Yes.

[fLgAtOr]

Oh..and welcome to the board.

[GHO5T]

I need some advice. Can someone tell me if i would get bigger gains stacking tren with testosterone propionate or doing the prop alone?

well before we can provide you with any suggestions, i think it would be good if you told us some stats first (age,height,weight,cycle history,goals)

[pete23]

Well im 21 and ive been working out for a few years and haven't tried steroids before. I'm five-ten and weigh 170. I dont have much fat at all. I'm just looking for the biggest mass gain possible

[pete23]

I was thinking that tren, where it's used for cutting, might hinder mass gain

[SpiderRico]

first off you shouldnt even be thinking tren for a first cycle if done a couple cycle and havent even thought of it till now test only bro nothing else is needed for a first cycle and by the sounds of your stats it doesnt even seem like your ready for juice

[GHO5T]

Well im 21 and ive been working out for a few years and haven't tried steroids before. I'm five-ten and weigh 170. I dont have much fat at all. I'm just looking for the biggest mass gain possible

IMO you could some more mass before you begin using AAS, with a spot on diet and solid training regime you can put quite a bit of mass naturally, thus you will have a better base to work with when the time comes for you to start AAS.

But if you do decide to juice, i woudnt suggest incorporating tren into your first cycle. A test only cycle should suffice for your first, prop will be okay for this but you have to consider can you handle the ED or EOD injects. I think it would be in your best interest to look at administering Test E instead of the prop.

1-12 Test E 500mg/wk

Followed up by proper PCT. This is a simple first cycle, but very effective and alongside a spot on diet and training, it should yield you some impressive results.

[taiboxa]

ROFL
omg lack of research is BLINGING Outta that post.. firstly thats like asking
would i gain more weight on a 3500cal diet or 4500 cal diet ><

[vitamind]

TestP and TrenA is definitely more of a cutter or lean mass cycle. I just finished one actually, and yes adding Tren will of course get you better results than just Test alone. So much so that when I went off the tren after week 8 and was just running the Test you DEFINITELY notice a difference in it's absence. But regardless, a TestP and TrenA cycle is not for the new or timid. Everyday injections on top of possible (and some times crippling) TestProp injection pain is no joke (tho that depends on your Prop). Not to mention all the ancillaries you should be running with the Tren. If you just want mass, and don't have many (or any) cycles under your belt, I'd just stick with a long chain Test and a dbol kickstart or something similar focused on pure mass.

[vitamind]

Oh, and yeah, there are TONS of sample newbie mass cycles on this forum....and TestP and TrenA is definitely not one of them.

[boostedevo8]

test is the only way to go ona first cycle.....keep it basic for now man

[pete23]

Thanks guys, I appreciate all the help.

[taiboxa]

anyways i just saw ur stats.. ur not ready for aas.. UR READY FOR A PROPER DIET