serious Question

[pavlenko]

ok guys I started my 2nd cycle today consisting on the following

10 weeks deca 500week
12 weeks test-e 500week
8-14 weeks winny 100day

I am a young guy, do you think if I go all natural after this cycle with good PCT I would still be able to gain good naturally for afew years before doing some more cycles? I want to gain more strength and muscle fast so I can just work from there. my diet and training is in check. please comment
i am 180lbs very lean.

My 1st cycle was just 250mg test e 10 weeks

[evil pepsi]

imo, i wouldnt count your first cycle as a real cycle. if it was me, and i was putting someone on a cycle for the first time (not really sure if you are ready), i would stick with just test e, shooting 250mg twice a week.
you havent really done a full cycle yet, and you have no idea how your body will respond...

[pavlenko]

i have gained 20 pounds muscle on that 1st cycle

[Knockout_Power]

If you were only doing 250mg/week, did you split the dosage up or just one a week injection?

[pavlenko]

1 dose in that 1st cycle

[cfiler]

I would drop one of the compounds. If you are bulking, drop the winstrol. If cutting, drop the deca.

No need for all those compounds yet.

Also, you should have atleast 200mgs more test than deca weekly. I'd drop the Deca down to 300mgs if you deciede to run deca.

[GHO5T]

ok guys I started my 2nd cycle today consisting on the following

10 weeks deca 500week
12 weeks test-e 500week
8-14 weeks winny 100day

I am a young guy, do you think if I go all natural after this cycle with good PCT I would still be able to gain good naturally for afew years before doing some more cycles? I want to gain more strength and muscle fast so I can just work from there. my diet and training is in check. please comment
i am 180lbs very lean.

My 1st cycle was just 250mg test e 10 weeks

You wont be able to keep 100 percent of the gains from your cycle, but with a spot on diet and solid training regime you should be able to keep a good amount of it. And of course you will beable to gain naturally after the cycle, but the gains will come at a slower rate.

As far as your cycle is concerned, you might consider extending the durations of the two main aas being used (TEST and DECA), IMO to see the full potential of deca a full 12 weeks is paramount, of course you would need to extend Test another 2 weeks as well, and change your PCT start time accordingly. heres how i would run it

1-14 Test e 500mg/wk
1-12 Deca 400-500mg/wk
11-16 Winni 50-100mg/ed

PCT(14 days after last injecttion of Test e)
*use w/e PCT protocol works best for you*

[pavlenko]

Why would it not be beneficial to run winny? It will harden the gains plus its gonna be ran at the end of the deca.

[pavlenko]

I will look into extensions depending on what the scale starts telling me, if the gains start coming at a slower rate during the last 10-12 weeks then extension wont happen if the gains will be coming solid constant during the last weeks I will prolly extend it, how much slower will the muscle grow after this cycle naturally?