Actual M1T Research?

[fLgAtOr]

I think this is a pretty interesting compound, and many people are quick to dismiss it. I hear alot about how its sooo bad and its like "rat poison" etc etc... But I haven't seen too much actually written about it.

Where does it TRULY rank in hepatoxicity? Has anyone gotten blood tests done after running M1T vs Dbol or Abombs?

Can anyone objectively compare his side effects of M1T to Dbol or Drol. All three? (Taking into account dosages and other compounds, as well.)

Personally, Dbol ranks at the bottom of my list. I wasn't impressed with the strength, the quality of the gains, or the sides. The weight gain, however, was impressive. Both M1T and Drol seem to have been easier on the sides, as well as better quality and strength...DHT related maybe?

Any thoughts?

[Manpretty]

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[Prada]

M1T is a very effective and potent steroid. Yes it has sides just like any other AAS and especially oral AAS but also just like any other AAS, if you take the neccessary precautions then you should be okay. If you can tolerate the sides then go for it, many cannot endure the lethargy. I would have to agree that it is much more, effective, IMO, then Dbol. The effects I have seen on others is that M1T has nice, lean, dry gains while Dbol isnt as much.

[fLgAtOr]

buuump.

[nephilim666]

not a fan of M1T but i am a fan of superdrol.

[fLgAtOr]

not a fan of M1T but i am a fan of superdrol.

That wasn't my question. Why didn't you like it? I'm assuming side effects? Have you used Dbol or Drol? Have you ever gotten liver values checked afterwards?

[cfiler]

M1T is not legal anymore, so I don't see an advantage of cycling it.

Never ran M1T, don't plan to.

[fLgAtOr]

M1T is not legal anymore, so I don't see an advantage of cycling it.

Never ran M1T, don't plan to.

So legality is the only reason why you would run it? Not sure I understand...

[nephilim666]

**** legality, M1T ****ed me up thats why i dont like it . yes i had blood tests done before and after using it because no joke i was 18 lol. i did manage to gain 15 lbs and keep 12 with clomid pct but god dammit BAD back pains and my liver values were ****ed for a while. my supporting supps were sumba root , milk thistle, and some other shit my friends got me , i even preloaded.

edit : i never experienced any lethargy or any real impact in libido for some reason.

[love 2 lift]

Good gains, but lost most after. Makes you feel awful <tired and feeling like doing nothing, but sleeping> after about 2 weeks on. Blood presure went up 2. I was running 10 mg every 12 hours. I used with test and without with the same affect.

[nephilim666]

imho M1T has its place, but never should be used as a base for a cycle or used more then 2 or 3 times.

[Tesla]

and some other shit my friends got me

[fLgAtOr]

Ok cool...we're getting somewhere. Can either of you compared it to Dbol or Drol?

[WCW_Nostalgia]

I had a friend who took it, his liver values were pretty messed up, but he also didn't take any liver support supps like he should have. M1T definately works but I doubt I'll try it due to the sides.

[fLgAtOr]

Hmm...So no one that has used Dbol/Drol ever used M1T, huh?

So many "rat poison" stories, I guess i just assumed some would have actually tried it.

[nephilim666]

honeslty i dont think its as bad for u as people make it out to be , i mean yea it messed me up a little but i bounced right back afterwords, if i knew more i wuda used different support supps , but i was 18 and nieve and well ur avg 18 yr old.. lol

[Sepsis]

i loved it when i was running it. gained 14 lbs, kept about half. strength gains were awesome also. the only problem i had with it is my hair falling out in the shower and extreme acne. the acne and libido problems also persisted for a few months after i stopped taking it. its not for everybody. i cant compare it to the other two you mentioned as i havent taken either.

[UpstateTank]

if you've ever read any of my posts when it comes to otc roids you kno im conservative in their doses and how the cycles should be run...

that being said im currently doing my 2nd M1T cycle...I ran my first when I didnt have a clue what I was doing (stoopid 19yr old), ran no support supps, didnt run any pct...Got some slight gyno from it but that has since subsided. So far I havent experienced ne sides--preloaded my support supps and have a proper pct lined up...I dont kno why most ppl jump all over this stuff as being rat poison...Granted I do take a conservative approach towards this stuff and am very cautious, but I think its overplayed--but at the same time the toxicity should not be underestimated or downplayed.

[fLgAtOr]

Thanks guys. Getting more detailed as we go along here...

Upstate,
Have you ever run any other orals (specifically Dbol/Drol)? Ever gotten bloodwork after that first M1T cycle? (Or even during this cycle?)

[fLgAtOr]

honeslty i dont think its as bad for u as people make it out to be , i mean yea it messed me up a little but i bounced right back afterwords, if i knew more i wuda used different support supps , but i was 18 and nieve and well ur avg 18 yr old.. lol

Neither do I, bro...And there are a ton of factors to consider. Second time I did M1T, I has some issues recovering. But its not even fair to say that, becuase I was on so much letro, that my dick wouldn't of worked anyways....Stopped the letro and suddenly I could get it up again. IMO, it wasn't the M1T.

I heard so many people say, "**** M1T, take dbol". I tried Dbol and I found it rather unpleasant...Bloat, mediocre strength. and AAACCCNNNEEEE...

I think this compound has potential....And the "brotelligence" told everyone otherwise.

[nephilim666]

bro from what everyone in my area goes by, DBOL is a waste, people use var or a methylated product over Dbol all the time. Tren is also unbelievibly popular, honeslty i go to the gym with swimmies on and i go swimming in the tren pools :P

[Taurus]

this may be a little off topic...but.... i have taken superdrol and dbol. i have also taken prop and tbol. and by far the superdrol outdid all of them. 19lbs in 4 weeks. kept 15 lbs. awesome pumps... great overall feeling. didnt get any sides either...i was running all my supps.

[fLgAtOr]

TTT

Thanks for the feedback. I'm still looking for people that have used M1T, as well as Dbol/Drol...

[ascendant]

the reason people are so wary about m1t and for that matter superdrol as well is the fact that they are both pretty new compounds and because of that they have not been thoroughly tested yet. do you know how many kinds of gear were on the market just in arnolds days alone that aren't anymore because of how many side-effects they had? one that comes to mind for me i believe was called "jet". over time however, they found so many sides with the steroid it eventually just disappeared off the market due to lack of interest. there were several others as well, though i don't personally know what at this time. however, the reason steroids are safer nowadays is because most of what we use has been around for a while, we know very well the side-effects of them, and we know what to do to avoid them.

with m1t, yea i know many have used it, some satisfactorily, some not so much. however, it can have potential long-term side-effects that we have no clue about simply because it hasn't been tested long-term yet. if you wanna be the guinea pig that's fine, but i'll pass on that.

why are you even considering m1t anyway? i mean if it's all you can get then i understand, but with injects, you have no concerns of liver damage. i personally tend to stay away from orals just because of the damage they do to your body. i wanna get huge, but not at the expense of my health.

[fLgAtOr]

the reason people are so wary about m1t and for that matter superdrol as well is the fact that they are both pretty new compounds and because of that they have not been thoroughly tested yet. do you know how many kinds of gear were on the market just in arnolds days alone that aren't anymore because of how many side-effects they had? one that comes to mind for me i believe was called "jet". over time however, they found so many sides with the steroid it eventually just disappeared off the market due to lack of interest. there were several others as well, though i don't personally know what at this time. however, the reason steroids are safer nowadays is because most of what we use has been around for a while, we know very well the side-effects of them, and we know what to do to avoid them.

with m1t, yea i know many have used it, some satisfactorily, some not so much. however, it can have potential long-term side-effects that we have no clue about simply because it hasn't been tested long-term yet. if you wanna be the guinea pig that's fine, but i'll pass on that.

why are you even considering m1t anyway? i mean if it's all you can get then i understand, but with injects, you have no concerns of liver damage. i personally tend to stay away from orals just because of the damage they do to your body. i wanna get huge, but not at the expense of my health.

You bring up some great points. The fact that M1T has not been around for very long is true. However, it isn't neccessarily the "staus quo opinion" when someone asks about it. I'm sure you can guess the standard response..."M1T sucks, use real steroids" etc etc etc...And yet, ironically, they've never used it.

This is actually the reason why I posed this question. I want to see how it compares to more popular orals; and in addition, real life bloodwork experience, as well. (I've posted some of my experiences above, but unfortunatly w/out bloodwork.) My goal isn't neccessarily to be a guinea pig (although I do tend to take some risks) but to encourage intelligent conversation of a compound that many have tried, but even more have dismissed as crap.

I respect your opinion regarding orals and maintaining your health. I'm personally becoming more interested in using a lower dose of orals in combination with other short esters. For insance, I'm running Prop/Tren/Anadrol, but the A's were only around 50mg ED...Very pleased with the results vs sides and not really interested in increasing the dose.

What if M1T wasn't as bad as everyone says it is? Why would we want to dismiss a great compound? This is why I'm asking for real life experience.

I appreciate the input bro.

[nephilim666]

i spoke with my cusion whos been using aas for almost 20 years now, he said M1T in his opinion is better then Dbol but he likes anavar better. he said he gets bad water retention and little muscle gain from Dbol even around 80mg a day ,and has used M1T in cycles, by itself also, a total of 6 times.

i dont get it if m1T is illegal why is it still so popular?arent there none of them around anymore?>

[fLgAtOr]

i spoke with my cusion whos been using aas for almost 20 years now, he said M1T in his opinion is better then Dbol but he likes anavar better. he said he gets bad water retention and little muscle gain from Dbol even around 80mg a day ,and has used M1T in cycles, by itself also, a total of 6 times.

i dont get it if m1T is illegal why is it still so popular?arent there none of them around anymore?>

I'm sure it owes some of its popularity to its formal legality. However, its now illegal, like every other steroid. I know that some UGL's carry it. So, legality really is not an issue anymore, consider, legally, its on a level playing field with other steroids.

[nephilim666]

yea i hear ya , i didnt know it was still made,in that case lol if i had it i would run it again , but do it right this time.

[fLgAtOr]

TTT

Thanks for the feedback. I'm still looking for people that have used M1T, as well as Dbol/Drol...

Bump for the evening crowd.

[Angel of death]

M1T kicks the shit out of dbol in my opinion. I loveeee that shit, me and all my boys whove taken it blow up in like 1 week with minimal water retention. I think its sweet, really does a number on my hair though.