Simple and honest question

[Skynard]

I just want to ask one thing (even though i risk being banned) ,so here it goes,i´ve seen pictures of some of you guys,the ones you put on your profiles and in most of you i can t see the big muscled guy that the steroids should turn you in,maybe its me that is not seeing well,i dont know and another thing is, almost every doctor says that steroids are really really bad for you health,but when i visited one of those sites that sell legal steroids they say that steroids should be taken under doctor´s supervision,so where do we stand? Are steroids good if you take controlled dose combined with a good workout and you make analysis every month,or in the long term they could be bad for your health?Just a newbie asking

Thanks

[Apex]

Let the research begin my friend:

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12

[MartyMcFly]

It takes years to get big. Steroids are not a miracle drug.

[king6]

No such thing as legal steroids. And it depends on what your definition of a big muscles guy is. I would be happy at 195 and 7% BF. Not huge, but well rounded. And I believe I can get there in 2 cycles. Steroids is not a miracle drug. A miracle drug would be one where you don't have to do anything but take the drug. You have to work hard with steroids, and if you can do that then yes, in a sense it is a miracle drug.

[MartyMcFly]

I would be happy at 195 and 7% BF.

My goal as well. Maybe 205.

[Skynard]

thanks

[Getbig06]

I just want to ask one thing (even though i risk being banned) ,so here it goes,i´ve seen pictures of some of you guys,the ones you put on your profiles and in most of you i can t see the big muscled guy that the steroids should turn you in,maybe its me that is not seeing well,i dont know and another thing is, almost every doctor says that steroids are really really bad for you health,but when i visited one of those sites that sell legal steroids they say that steroids should be taken under doctor´s supervision,so where do we stand? Are steroids good if you take controlled dose combined with a good workout and you make analysis every month,or in the long term they could be bad for your health?Just a newbie asking

Thanks

Well, steroid and all to ultimately reach your goal will require a lot of time, discipline, dedication and sacrifice.... One pound at a time.

[evil pepsi]

i hate it when people dismiss everything as the work of steroids. its not like we shoot ourselves and grow while we sleep. there is two important steps in between.
its like a tripod in that there are three legs to it-diet, training, and gear. if one leg is weak, it will all come crashing down.
if anything, we have to actually work harder on gear than we do off of it...

[Skynard]

i´m not desmissing anything but my personal trainer(which is a close friend of mine) is a bodybuilder and he doesent use steroids none of the less he has really big muscles with big definition

[Skynard]

dont tell me that steroids arent a booster?that a person that takes steroids compared to another that doesnt,does not get bigger than the latter?

[Skynard]

for instance i only use protein

[Skynard]

and i have a big enough arm(of corse not as big as the one GHO5T has),defined legs and i´m gaining ab dominal definition

[evil pepsi]

i´m not desmissing anything but my personal trainer(which is a close friend of mine) is a bodybuilder and he doesent use steroids none of the less he has really big muscles with big definition

i am not speaking for your trainer, but when i was a trainer, i denied using when asked. im sure im not the only one to lie about it.
again, im speaking only for myself...

[king6]

i am not speaking for your trainer, but when i was a trainer, i denied using when asked. im sure im not the only one to lie about it.
again, im speaking only for myself...

That pisses me off how steroid use is socially unexceptable, where we can't talk about it for fear of ridicule or other BS. But you hear people talk about all the they smoke or smoked in high school, and that is some kind of freakin godsend. I have never done drugs, and no I don't count steroids as a drug, it is a cosmetic. And unlike the pot somking losers we use our compounds to better ourselves, and not kill our brain cells.

[evil pepsi]

i denied it because, well, think about it. look at all the posts on this site as an example. i wasnt being a hypocrit, i just didnt want to field a barrage of requests for a hookup, how-to, etc...

[king6]

i denied it because, well, think about it. look at all the posts on this site as an example. i wasnt being a hypocrit, i just didnt want to field a barrage of requests for a hookup, how-to, etc...

Yeah, I could see how that might happen.

[MuscleScience]

Look at the rest of the world. The US is one of only a handful of nations were steroids is illegal. They were legal until about 20-30 years ago. It takes one bleeding heart story for some activist senator to f^ck everything for everyone. Another example is ephedra, that pitcher that died at 23 years old had a family history of sudden cardiac death. Yet ephedra is what killed him?

[Apex]

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Couldn't agree more Muscle Science................makes me want to go outside and make a bunch of yellow snow.

[RobbieG]

there is a difference between proper knowledge and usage, and ABUSE.

[beuleux]

I deny it to most people I know its only a few close friends and gym buddies (juice buddies) that know. Some of the avys here are natural not everyone here juices and they have good bodies too, some may use steroids to get freaking huge because thats what they want out of thier lifting, while others use it to improve on thier natural gains, there are lots of reasons why people may takle steroids, I cant speak for your trainer buddy because Ive never seen him but some people just have fcuk off genetics. I too asked my doctor about steriods and I was told assuming what I get is legit and I use it in moderation its unlikely Id come to any harm. Stick aroun for a bit and do some reading then you can make your own mind up.

[perfectbeast2001]

I just want to ask one thing (even though i risk being banned) ,so here it goes,i´ve seen pictures of some of you guys,the ones you put on your profiles and in most of you i can t see the big muscled guy that the steroids should turn you in,maybe its me that is not seeing well,i dont know and another thing is, almost every doctor says that steroids are really really bad for you health,but when i visited one of those sites that sell legal steroids they say that steroids should be taken under doctor´s supervision,so where do we stand? Are steroids good if you take controlled dose combined with a good workout and you make analysis every month,or in the long term they could be bad for your health?Just a newbie asking

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AS will not turn you into a huge muscled guy, they will give you an advantage over someone who had the same genetics for muscle growth but was not using AS. As stated above it takes many things to become huge and muscled and to me AS is at the bottom of the list

Diet
Rest
Training
Gear

I mentioned genetics above, some people (maybe your trainer) have superb genetics and are able to gain muscle relatively quickly. Many others (myself included) constantly battle with gaining muscle or trying to keep fat levels down while holding muscle. It takes years of dedication, so even guys on here that don't "look" huge are still looking better than 99% of the population.
I also believe your trainer would not tell you even if he was using gear.....

[djack99587]

agreed, i am constatly fighting to keep my weight down and muscle up. while i have ok genetics, aas gives my that little extra edge i need to help out.

[MartyMcFly]

That pisses me off how steroid use is socially unexceptable, where we can't talk about it for fear of ridicule or other BS. But you hear people talk about all the they smoke or smoked in high school, and that is some kind of freakin godsend. I have never done drugs, and no I don't count steroids as a drug, it is a cosmetic. And unlike the pot somking losers we use our compounds to better ourselves, and not kill our brain cells.

I know this girl who does shit tons of . Stays up all hours of the night and parties hard all the time. She gets all concerned and says that steroids are the worst thing for you and how I should not do them etc. What a hypocrite. I quit drinking work out 7 days a week (inc cardio) and I am the one destroying my body? I told her I quit doing them. She believes me.

[king6]

I know this girl who does shit tons of . Stays up all hours of the night and parties hard all the time. She gets all concerned and says that steroids are the worst thing for you and how I should not do them etc. What a hypocrite. I quit drinking work out 7 days a week (inc cardio) and I am the one destroying my body? I told her I quit doing them. She believes me.

I don't know where all the hype about steroids being bad for you comes from.
Anything is bad for you if you abuse it. I like how people say that steroids causes baldness and bitch tits, and other bad things. And I say to them "Which ones?" There are at least 100 different compounds out there including desinger steroids, and pro hormones. I wish people would educate themselves before running their mouths, and take a look at their own habits when it comes to alcohol and recreational drug usage.

[Wizeguy]

If Steroids were the evil the media portrayed them to be, and if they acted like heroin or meth, like the goverment portrays them to be,then why are there HRT clinics? There are excellent medical reasons for them and anti ageing therapys available that really arent medically required. This is all legal. IMO there is solid evidence and clinical research that shows us that steroid use can improve ones health and athletic ability when used properly. Some of these legal pro-hormones are more dangerous than any real steroid out there. Steroids arent new, they have been around since the fifty's and like some other meds they havnt had any news alerts telling us that certain steroids are being pulled by he FDA because they are dangerous and causing deaths. If anything the news and research about steroids is getting more positive for its uses in the medical field. Just dont listen to the media. Remember silicone breast inplants, my godm they were killing people and were a mess to society..........now they are ok!

[king6]

Yeah, and people inject botox like there is no tommorrow, and that is a freakin poison! It is a derivitive of botulism. God forbid we inject test, which occurs naturally in our bodies anyway.

[Booz]

no rec drug talk thanks guys..................

[evil pepsi]

when i was being treated for cellulitis, my doctor told me that he blames most of the problems with steroids today on them being illegal. he said he treats steroid-related cases all the time, and said its mostly due to people having to get them on the black market, not knowing what they are putting into their bodies, bad gear, bad dosing, etc... shocked the shit out of me when he said it.
i was watching the worlds strongest man comp on tv a few weeks ago and my buddy asked me why i thought an american hasnt won since 1982. i told him its simple-steroids have been illegal since the 80s. even though we can still get them, it did tilt the field just slightly...