Nark...please read

[nandro_shagg]

ok people...im 25, 5'9, 210 lbs, about 7 yrs training experience, and several single compound cycles such as deca only, test only, and a few deca-test and deca dbol cycles, im trying to put together a nice cycle to gain fairly lean muscle mass with what i have in stock supplier has retired....i have the following...12 cc's namebrand deca 300, 5 ccs namebrand EQ 200, 13 cc's namebrand Prop 100, 20 cc's namebrand test e 350mg, 231 pink dbol 5mg, 63 reforvit simple 5mg dbol, 189 .02mg clen....can u please critique my train of thought here..i can get some PCT products but as i stated my source is retired now so see if you can help me make the best of it...as it draws closer I will post diet plans, more extensive workout plans as well....im a student so part 2 after 6 wks PCT, the days may change...probably bump up to 6 days/wk...also do u think its needed to run PCT if i know I'm going right back on cycle 6 wks after...

How about this...."I plan on cycle starting around Feb."

wk 1-6, 100 mg Prop E/O/D
wk 1-6, 20 mgs dbol E/D
----5 exercises per part, 5-8 sets per exercise, 10-15 reps each-----
Tuesday-Chest ,Tri's

Thursday-Back, Bi's

Saturday- Shoulders, Traps

Sunday-Legs, Calves


6 wks off-cycle to run PCT

wk 1-10 300 mg Deca/wk
wk 1-10 350 mg Test E/wk
wk 1,2 20mgs Dbol (maybe)
wk 11-16 200 mg EQ/wk (maybe)
----workout open for suggestion-----
Tuesday--Shoulders, Traps

Thursday--Chest, Tri's

Saturday--Legs Calves

Sunday--Back, Bi's

[IBdmfkr]

Goodluck on this one Nark

[djack99587]

ya think?

[Booz]

c'mon Nark............lol

[Prada]

Happy New Year Nark....

[nandro_shagg]

damn is it that complicated lol...trust me i dont normally get this crazy with the 2 seperate cycles im just trying to use all the gear i have rather then junk it...i guess i could be overlooking something but i think the doses are appropriate for me, some might think they are too low but i gain easy with doses like these trust me...im also allowing 6 wks off after first short run of 6 wks...judging by my past cycles i would plan to put on say...30-40 lbs fairly easy and keep 25-30lbs of it or better...please everyone feel free to suggest i just admire narks words of wisdom and patience

[jdavis2007]

Up the test and don't do the EQ at the end...you will just have to find another supplier, and no I don't know anyone, nor do I sell....good luck...

[MartyMcFly]

damn is it that complicated lol...trust me i dont normally get this crazy with the 2 seperate cycles im just trying to use all the gear i have rather then junk it...i guess i could be overlooking something but i think the doses are appropriate for me, some might think they are too low but i gain easy with doses like these trust me...im also allowing 6 wks off after first short run of 6 wks...judging by my past cycles i would plan to put on say...30-40 lbs fairly easy and keep 25-30lbs of it or better...please everyone feel free to suggest i just admire narks words of wisdom and patience

Doubt it. Both cycles look bad. But I am not Nark so maybe I am wrong.

[Bigmax]

Bro,Maybe you shouldve kept this question to a PM for Nark...and not opened yourself for flames...Let me just say this...Nark is with out a doubt as intellegent(and experienced) as they come but thet statement about keeping 25-30lbs of gains after a 6 week cycle like that is Impossible and Nark will tell you that......SUP nark..Happy New Year bro..

[nandro_shagg]

hahah...i wouldnt gain 10 off that bro....im talking about the whole damn thing...im not running either or...im running both

[nandro_shagg]

Up the test and don't do the EQ at the end...you will just have to find another supplier, and no I don't know anyone, nor do I sell....good luck...

No i wont up the test as I stated I gain easy off lower doses then what most people post...this 700mg of test and shit a week is out of my league not only do i not NEED higher doses I mentally can't handle much more then say 500mgs a week...im not suggesting u wanted me to up my dose to 700mg I'm only saying what others consider a good mass gaining dose is often insane to me...the EQ i acctually only threw in there basically just to use it I will have to find another source to put that to any good use or in reallity I guess I would be junking it anyway...

[nandro_shagg]

Doubt it. Both cycles look bad. But I am not Nark so maybe I am wrong.

I went from 210 to 242 on 300mgs deca for 10 wks and dbol begain at wk 3 or 4 i believe at 15mgs, yes thats right 15mgs and eventually went up to 30 mgs over period of time till end of cycle...lost about 10 lbs and little amount of stregth but stayed pretty lean on cycle..point is...i get good gains, at least to my expectations and goals, from doses most people are embarresed to post...HOWEVER i did ask for everyones opinions and thats what I'm getting I'm not trying to DEBATE your ideas even though i may or may not agree with them, im only stressing that much higher doses just arent for me...Thanks for your response bro

[G-1000]

It's all you Nark.

I wound not wont to step on you toes by helping.

[marcus300]

It's all you Nark.

I wound not wont to step on you toes by helping.

[guest589745]

Where did you come up with the idea to run 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off, 10 weeks on? Well I guess it isn't so bad but I would do somehting else really, maybe just one 13-14 week cycle of testosterone (Maybe Dbol) instead.

As far as your training goes, use whatever you feel works for you at the time but switch it up every 8 weeks or so and take a week off right before you change it up.

Maybe post your current diet in th ediet section so people who know a lot about it can help you out with that.

Have you researched these hormones thoroughly ?

Anyway, don't take this shit as a walk in the park, you have to be 100% dedicated and know what the **** you are doing for it to work. I'm not Narkissos but I gave you the best advice I could .

[BG]

Bump 4 Nark.

[crash187ct]

Where did you come up with the idea to run 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off, 10 weeks on? Well I guess it isn't so bad but I would do somehting else really, maybe just one 13-14 week cycle of testosterone (Maybe Dbol) instead.

As far as your training goes, use whatever you feel works for you at the time but switch it up every 8 weeks or so and take a week off right before you change it up.

Maybe post your current diet in th ediet section so people who know a lot about it can help you out with that.

Have you researched these hormones thoroughly ?

Anyway, don't take this shit as a walk in the park, you have to be 100% dedicated and know what the **** you are doing for it to work. I'm not Narkissos but I gave you the best advice I could .

is your name nark/????

[Jucinator2]

Run the eq in the first cycle , it's really not enough but use it and it will help your appetite and vascularity will on the d-bol.It's not a huge cycle but done with proper diet and good trainig you should grow. plus it wont shut your on test down for too long so your 6 week pct should be affective , then jump on your 10 week cycle and keep going. only thing I dont like is the chest -tri back -bi work out. I always feel very weak when I train bi's after back , but that's me if it works for you then do it!

[perfectbeast2001]

cmon Nark quit hiding!!

[GHO5T]

I deff got to read what nark says about this one

[guest589745]

Did anyone consider he may have wanted Nark to comment in ADDITION to us others as well ?

[perfectbeast2001]

Did anyone consider he may have wanted Nark to comment in ADDITION to us others as well ?

Nah he just wants Nark.

[guest589745]

Yea I guess so, didn't see the title or maybe I misread it. Oh well.

[perfectbeast2001]

Yea I guess so, didn't see the title or maybe I misread it. Oh well.

im just kidding around mate, i dunno who he wants to talk too!!

[guest589745]

im just kidding around mate, i dunno who he wants to talk too!!

Yea no prob, I coulda swore this thread was titled "Question.......nark could you comment ? " But then again I am a complete delusional lunatic.

[anaBROLIC]

BUMP for NARK!

[guest589745]

He probly aint even gonna erply just cause they only asked him lol.

[BG]

Nah he just wants Nark.

Shagg aint into white boys.

[G-1000]

I think we should all PM him this thred link

[guest589745]

I think we should all PM him this thred link

Sounds god!!! Then he'll put us all on ignore lol.

[guest589745]

Why the short cycle?

What FEARS are you harboring?

Hey Ross. Lookin jacked.

[G-1000]

Sounds god!!! Then he'll put us all on ignore lol.

OK SO

[G-1000]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=278001

thanx bro

You do know there going to ban you again.

[*Narkissos*]

I think we should all PM him this thred link

I got it... Skullmasher hit me

Big Max...happy New year man.

Shit my head hurts from last night.

I'll read tru.. but probably direct my reply to PMs nandro_shagg

Nark

[G-1000]

I got it... Skullmasher hit me

Big Max...happy New year man.

Shit my head hurts from last night.

I'll read tru.. but probably direct my reply to PMs nandro_shagg

Nark

[*Narkissos*]

25, 5'9, 210 lbs, about 7 yrs training experience, and several single compound cycles such as deca only, test only, and a few deca-test and deca dbol cycles, im trying to put together a nice cycle to gain fairly lean muscle mass

i have the following...12 cc's namebrand deca 300, 5 ccs namebrand EQ 200, 13 cc's namebrand Prop 100, 20 cc's namebrand test e 350mg, 231 pink dbol 5mg, 63 reforvit simple 5mg dbol, 189 .02mg clen....

How about this...."I plan on cycle starting around Feb."

wk 1-6, 100 mg Prop E/O/D
wk 1-6, 20 mgs dbol E/D


6 wks off-cycle to run PCT

wk 1-10 300 mg Deca/wk
wk 1-10 350 mg Test E/wk
wk 1,2 20mgs Dbol (maybe)
wk 11-16 200 mg EQ/wk (maybe)

I'll rescind.

Honestly i don't think the decision to do these cycles back to back just so you can use all that you have on hand makes any sense.

Using the EQ namely makes no sense. Review the weight of the ester attached and you'll realise just how little actual boldenone you'd get per ml. And 5 weeks of EQ is even a greater waste.

I can see no feasible way you can incorporate it all, while being inkeeping with your moderate-dose-cycle goals, etc.

Additionally, @ 210/5'9" with 'several cycles' under your belt.. you should investigate, and re-evaluate, your diet and training. That being done.. a simple cycle would be advisable.

Going by what you have on hand you could go with a low-moderate-dosed test/deca cycle with a dbol/prop kickstart... w/ prop at the end

..or a dbol kick start with prop at the end.

Nark

[nandro_shagg]

thanks bro i appreciate everyones help on this really not just narks...i wasnt always 210 at 5'9 though...geared up around 180 i think..acctually got up to about 245 at one point, got a new job working 60hrs a wk and then college semester started back...still working 60 hrs a wk and going to school for 8.5 hours a day...lost almost all of what i worked for and didnt even see it coming...wasnt supposed to be working that much by the agreement i made with the employer...now though i only have class 3 days a wk for 1.5 hrs each and no more then 40 hrs wk at work garaunteed or i quit...and this is my last semester with only one class!!! i think im just gonna keep it simple and take your advice with the deca/test only might jump it with dbol but i couldnt hack the two test at 650mg/wk total at the end and the deca too...i had to take xanax to chill on deca dbol....lol...yeh im a puss like that but i get the job done....so there it is

wk 1-10 deca 300/wk
wk 1-10 test e 350/wk
(maybe jump with 20-30mgs of dbol wk 1 and 2)

[mister.fantastic]

wk 1-10 deca 300/wk
wk 1-10 test e 350/wk
(maybe jump with 20-30mgs of dbol wk 1 and 2)

I'd run the test out for twelve weeks and jump start w/dbol for the first 4 weeks rather than 1 or 2. Just my .02. Also, thought i'd ask, what does you PCT look like?