Help, newbie, I need better advice than the guy next door

[bhamguy35203]

I am new to this and have been debating for two weeks what the best product would be for me. I have heard great things about HGH however the price is more than I can afford. A friend recommened winstrol however it seems to be quite hard on the liver in tablet form. My goal is to be toned not a mass weight gain. I want to be cut and chistled not Mr. Universe. I am slightly overweight maybe 10 lbs but I want to lose about 20 lbs. I am a short guy 5'7, 170 lbs, 29 yrs old. My twin sister has hormone growth def. so I wonder if I could get a prescription for that so insurance would cover the cost. I have asked lots of people but found there answers to be more relevant to mass muscle gainers etc. Can anyone please help? If HGH is best, will I have to continue to use it to remain at that body type or just maintain my workout and diet schedule.

[evil pepsi]

it will make things easier for everyone if you post some stats about yourself. ten pounds is something you can lose without the use of gear by just altering your diet, if thats your only objective...

[bhamguy35203]

I understand the changing of the diet. I have done that and lost alot of weight, almost 30 lbs to be exact. My problem now is that I cant get rid of the left over fat. It is kinda like a have reached a plateu or something. I can feel my abs but I cant get rid of the fat on top of them. My stats are 5'7, 170, 29 yrs old, 32 waist, what else? My only objective is not fat loss, I still want the 6 pack and toned chistled muscles just not bulky muscles

[evil pepsi]

I understand the changing of the diet. I have done that and lost alot of weight, almost 30 lbs to be exact. My problem now is that I cant get rid of the left over fat. It is kinda like a have reached a plateu or something. I can feel my abs but I cant get rid of the fat on top of them. My stats are 5'7, 170, 29 yrs old, 32 waist, what else? My only objective is not fat loss, I still want the 6 pack and toned chistled muscles just not bulky muscles

all that comes from shedding some fat. there are some pretty intense diets posted on this board that can help you. they are all cheaper than aas, as with them, you will still have to modify your diet.
there is a thread by a poster named warrior that talks about his diet. its pretty strict, and just might be what you need.
since you are not looking to really add size, i would save aas as a last resort, but thats just me...

[evil pepsi]

give us a typical days menu for you. that could be a good starting point as it could be something as simple as changing the way you eat, times, foods, amounts, etc...
for some, just eliminating stuff like coke, sweet tea, salty foods, and so on, can reduce water retention and help shed those last few pounds...

[bhamguy35203]

all i eat is lean quisine and water, normally less than 1000 cal a day

[evil pepsi]

ok, now here is something for you to research-ketosis. that is probably what is keeping you from shedding the weight...

[spywizard]

wow... welcome to ar..

visit the diet forum, the cutting sticky will give you what you need in a correct diet..

[bhamguy35203]

GREAT, i will check them both out!! thanks for the input

[evil pepsi]

simply put, your body is in starvation mode, and is trying to store fat. less than 1000 calories a day is not good bro, not at all, especially if you are an active person...

[bhamguy35203]

yeah that is what i have been reading. WOW, I am glad you took the time to help because I was about to take steps that might not have been needed. Thanks

[Bigmax]

Lean cuisine and water...Oh my gosh!!!

[Mazzive_T]

A friend recommened winstrol however it seems to be quite hard on the liver in tablet form.

Winstrol tabs are not that stressfull on the liver. In the anabolic series by williams lewellyn, he has done research to prove that:

3 anadrols tablet each 50mg (150mg) is the same as

30 dianabol pills or 75 winstrol pills

So put that into prespective. Ive done 100mg anadrol a day for 6 weeks and **ol cycles too and i feel that if you do the correct things to help your liver, then your liver will help you.

So take Liv'52's, plenty of water and NO BOOZE.

[Mazzive_T]

A friend recommened winstrol however it seems to be quite hard on the liver in tablet form.

Winstrol tabs are not that stressfull on the liver. In the anabolic series by williams lewellyn, he has done research to prove that:

3 anadrols tablet each 50mg (150mg) is the same as

30 dianabol pills or 75 winstrol pills

So put that into prespective. Ive done 100mg anadrol a day for 6 weeks and **ol cycles too and i feel that if you do the correct things to help your liver, then your liver will help you.

So take Liv'52's, plenty of water and NO BOOZE.

[Mazzive_T]

A friend recommened winstrol however it seems to be quite hard on the liver in tablet form.

Winstrol tabs are not that stressfull on the liver. In the anabolic series by williams lewellyn, he has done research to prove that:

3 anadrols tablet each 50mg (150mg) is the same as

30 dianabol pills or 75 winstrol pills

So put that into prespective. Ive done 100mg anadrol a day for 6 weeks and dbol cycles too and i feel that if you do the correct things to help your liver, then your liver will help you.

So take Liv'52's, plenty of water and NO BOOZE.

All the Best. T.

[Mazzive_T]

sorry 4 postin 3 times i double clicked wrong button.

[Haro3]

im not sure why your suggesting steroids when the guy said he takes in less than 1000 cals a day.......

dude u gotta eat different and yea you eat more to lose weight....go check out the diet section

[bhamguy35203]

thanks for the replies and advise. I have been reading alot more and I agree that my body is in starvation mode. I really think that any type is of no use to me at this point until and I understand the body a little better and get a good base then maybe I will proceed with enhancements. I am throwing the frozen meals away! Thanks everyone!!

[Kale]

It is beyon me why you would want to lose 20lbs if you are only 5'7" and 170lbs. You will look like a fvcking Biafrin at that weight and height !!