Trenbolone A + Test Prop

[the juggler]

Hi there guys.

When time is right i will do my second real/inject cycle (last one was deca (200mg) +test E (500mg)+dbol (50mg) ).

I want to try tren A and test p. Although i will keep dosages on a resonable level.

I was thinking about something like:

Week 1-10: Test Prop 100mg EOD
Week 1-8: Trenbolone A 75mg EOD
Week 2,4,6,8,10: HCG 250-500iu ED for 7 days

But i was also thinking about something else:

Week 1-10: Test prop 100mg EOD
Week 1-8: Trenbolone A 50mg ED
Week 2,4,6,8,10: HCG 250-500iu ED for 7 days

What's your view on these setups?

(I've read clockworks dairy and got the inspiration for the 50mg ED tren setup from there, thanks)

I've choosen tren a due to the stuff people expierence with fina-products.

[G-1000]

I would do ed injection. You will see less sides from the tren and prop.

I like this one better.

Week 1-10: Test Prop 100mg EOD
Week 1-8: Trenbolone A 75mg EOD
Week 2,4,6,8,10: HCG 250-500iu ED for 7 days

[Pac8541]

IMO you don't need the full 5 weeks of ed HCG throughout your cycle like that. Do 500iu's every 4 days throughout the cycle instead and I think you'll find it sufficient at keeping your balls working. I'm in the last several weeks of a 14 week cycle that included deca at 600mgs/week and this HCG strategy has worked great so far. Save the rest for your PCT.

And if it were me, I'd go with ED injections on both the tren and prop.

my .02. Best of luck.

[MAXIMA5]

I agree with Pac. that's WAY too much HCG.

And like Gsxxr said, shoot it ED, or run long esters (BUT DO NOT RUN TREN ENATHATE AS A FIRST TREN CYCLE)

If you're not ready for ED injections, then you're probably not ready for prop/tren

[the juggler]

Pac: Thank you very much for the HCG tip.

MAXIMA & Gsxxr: ED sounds good, it's just a question about spot-rotation, but what dosage of prop and tren should i do?

Week 1-8: 70mg Test Prop ED (Approximately 2/3 of 1mL, a very tiny bit more)
Week 1-8: 50mg Tren A ED
Week 1-8: 500iu HCG E4D

PCT

Does this look good?

[G-1000]

do 100mg prorp ed and 75mg tren ed.

Injection sights delts x2 glutes x2 quads x2 tris x2 bi x2 = 10 sights more then enugh.

Your going to be running tren time to Man up.

Oh on the hcg i tend to over do it. I dont run it in my cycle i run it at the end at a high dose. But the is becuse i have endless amounds of it.

[the juggler]

700mg of Test EW for my second cycle??

7x70mg = 490mg test EW, isn't that sufficient?

[MAXIMA5]

you can run 70 or 75 mg ED.

[the juggler]

Week 1-8: 75mg Test Prop ED (Approximately 2/3 of 1mL, a very tiny bit more)
Week 1-8: 75mg Tren A ED
Week 1-8: 500iu HCG E4D

PCT

Is this ok then? (i've heard that it is not good to do the same dosages of tren as you are doing prop, but what do you guys think?)

[MAXIMA5]

I would run the prop for 10 weeks and the tren for 8

or

the prop for 12 weeks
and the tren for 10

the HCG is up to you. I personally would start running it half way through or 3/4 way through cycle e4d at 500iu.
Seems pointless to me to try to stimulate your nutts before they're even shut down or have any chance of atrophy in week 1.

[the juggler]

Ok:

Week 1-10: 75mg Test Prop ED (Approximately 2/3 of 1mL, a very tiny bit more)
Week 2-8: 75mg Tren A ED
Week 1-10: 500iu HCG E4D

PCT

Is equal to 50mL Test P (100mg/mL) and 50mL Tren A (75mg/mL) in total

[the juggler]

Although i could spend a little extra and get 50mL Test P (painless with 150mg/mL) for a few bucks more and then do ~100mg Test P ED or just 75mg ED for a bit longer

[MAXIMA5]

I would start the prop and the tren at the same time

[G-1000]

The prop dose is going to be the lest of your problems. 500 700mg dont mean shit. If your going to get sides it's comeing from the tren. And at that point 50mg or 75 mg day and going to make a huge diffrencs.

[MAXIMA5]

Correct. If I need a little extra intensity and results, I'll up my tren dose as little as .1 ml and deal with the sides.

If I have a lot of early meetings and need my sleep or if I'm feeling run-down, i'll cut it back very slightly and the sides reduce significantly. It's powerful $hit