How does this look for a first cylce?

**RustyXP** · 01-02-2007, 02:04 PM

Ok, after talking to my gear guy, and doing some more research this is what I am thinking about for my first cycle:
1-12wk: Test ENAN 500mg/wk
Having Nolva on stand by for gyno (10-20mg a day if needed?)
2 weeks after the last Enan starting Clomid
Day 1: 300mg, Day 2-10 100mg, day 11-20 50mg

Does this sound like a good plan? Is that going to be enough for the PCT? My other idea was running deca with the test for the first 10 weeks, and maybe jump starting everything with d-bol 35mg ED for the first 4 weeks. Does that sound a little over kill, or will that make for a nice well rounded first cycle?

**MartyMcFly** · 01-02-2007, 02:20 PM

Looks good. If you have nolva do wk 1-2 40mg.ed 2-4 20mg/day during pct. I am running almost the same cycle soon.

**dhriscerr** · 01-02-2007, 02:25 PM

I also am a virgan with cycle experience, but I am doing the exact same cycle mid january the only different is Im going to include Nolva at 20mg a day in the PCT. I think you will want to go with just Test E for your first cycle, because of 2 reasons, 1 if you use more and get gyno you wont know what compound caused the gyno, 2nd if you use Test E only then your next cycle you can jump start it with dbol and you will still get really good gains out of a dbol test e stack, if you jump into 3 compounds right away you will not get as good of gains your next cycle unless you add more, Thats from the research I've gathered and if anyone with more experience out there thinks Im wrong please jump in. Also you can always run L-dex at .25 during the cycle for gyno prevention and bloating

**RustyXP** · 01-02-2007, 04:09 PM

sorry for asking, but what is L-dex?
EDIT: Should I do both the clomid and Nolva post cycle? Or can I cover all my bases with just the Nolva? And skip the deca and d-bol for now?

**wes cst rydr** · 01-02-2007, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by RustyXP

sorry for asking, but what is L-dex?

you need to know before you cycle! look in the profiles and know as much as possible before you start.nolv = serm l dex= anti

**RustyXP** · 01-02-2007, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by wes cst rydr

you need to know before you cycle! look in the profiles and know as much as possible before you start.nolv = serm l dex= anti

I can find the profile for nolv, but nothing about L dex. Can you point me in a Direction?

**wes cst rydr** · 01-02-2007, 04:32 PM

(armidex) l dex= liquid

**RustyXP** · 01-02-2007, 08:50 PM

The l-dex looks like some pretty interesting stuff. Is this any better then nolva, or is best used in conjunction with it? Maybe I am mistaken, but is l-dex legit to buy online in the states?

**MartyMcFly** · 01-02-2007, 08:55 PM

It is still a prescription drug. Just click on PCT and you can get some for your lab rat.

**RustyXP** · 01-02-2007, 09:28 PM

damn, no kidding. And this is the same stuff everyone's lab rats use? even the nolva?

**mikal1221** · 01-02-2007, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by RustyXP

Ok, after talking to my gear guy, and doing some more research this is what I am thinking about for my first cycle:
1-12wk: Test ENAN 500mg/wk
Having Nolva on stand by for gyno (10-20mg a day if needed?)
2 weeks after the last Enan starting Clomid
Day 1: 300mg, Day 2-10 100mg, day 11-20 50mg

Does this sound like a good plan? Is that going to be enough for the PCT? My other idea was running deca with the test for the first 10 weeks, and maybe jump starting everything with d-bol 35mg ED for the first 4 weeks. Does that sound a little over kill, or will that make for a nice well rounded first cycle?

the Test ENAN 500mg/wk, do you take this one serving a week or do you divide that up throughout the week?

**cfiler** · 01-02-2007, 10:31 PM

Nice looking cycle.

**cfiler** · 01-02-2007, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by mikal1221

the Test ENAN 500mg/wk, do you take this one serving a week or do you divide that up throughout the week?

Divided between 2 injects weekly. You would inject every 3.5 days.

**KeepingItBalanced** · 01-02-2007, 11:17 PM

Good first cycle. Example of above incase you are stupid like me... cfiler means

Monday X:00am inject
Thursday X:00pm inject

**RustyXP** · 01-03-2007, 05:07 AM

sorry to ask again, but should I use both the nolva and the clomid or should I stick with juse one?

**wes cst rydr** · 01-03-2007, 03:06 PM

if you want to be safe use nolva and clomid for pct. use l dex during cycle.if you start getting itchy nips or anything switch ldex to letro.do a search on these in the forum and you will learn a lot.