1st cycle suggestions

**sparky24** · 07-21-2002, 08:55 AM

for my first ever cycle i'm thinking about using these three: deca , and primo tabs and maybe sus.

i'm prone to gyno as i found out from using high doses of prohormones so i don't want toi be using high does.

can anyone suggest a good cycle with just deca and primo and another cycle with deca sus and primo?

how much, how long etc..

thanks in advance

(i'm trying to lose 7-14lbs of fat and gain some quality muscle)

***JohnnyB*** · 07-21-2002, 09:10 AM

You need to give your stats, age, height, weight and years of training. You'll get more reponce this way.

JohnnyB

**sparky24** · 07-21-2002, 10:03 AM

i'm 25 years old, 5'8 160lbs 15%bf.

i've been training for the last 4 years although i have been seriously ill twice and not trained for 1.5 years.

**rangerdudeleads** · 07-21-2002, 10:51 AM

Hey sparky I think youll like the eq/test/winny cycle, I just finished that cycle and got gains that really satisfied me.

**sparky24** · 07-21-2002, 11:58 AM

thanks ranger, but wouldn't the test easily cause gyno?

**D3m3nt3d** · 07-21-2002, 01:07 PM

that really depends on what prohormones caused your gyno..if you used a nor andro product, the gyno was from progesterone, meaning deca would not be a good idea, however if it was with PH's such as andros or anything playing with ur testosterone ,then test might cause probs, try running liquidex with it and u should be fine

**Rickson** · 07-21-2002, 01:36 PM

The bottom line is even if you are prone to estrogen based gyno it is by far the easiest to prevent. Do not count test out of all your cycles from a fear of gyno. Start with low doses using Arimidex and increase gradually. If I was you I would not use both test and deca or fina in a cycle until I knew what kind of gyno I was prone to.

**sparky24** · 07-21-2002, 02:26 PM

what kind of gyno am i prone to? i used these prohormones taking twice the recommended amount: 19-norandrostenedione - 500mgs a day
................................... 19-norandrostenedione - 100mgs a day
.....................................19-norandrostenediol - 100mgs a day
.....................................5-androstenediol - 50mgs a day.

i'm thinking about steroid use but i want to know what steroids to stay away from. cheers.