cycling again...calling Pinnacle

**musclestack** · 01-06-2007, 11:53 AM

I had started a thread about a year ago that is similar to this one about how long it takes for androgen receptors to clear. I got some good feedback, but I would like to add to my initial question.

Assuming that blood work checks out, how long, in your opinion, does it take for someone to respond well to a cycle after coming off a previous one? I know that in the last thread, a lot of people blamed SHBG levels as the main culprit that made gains come to a hault after a while.

Simply put, let's say that bloodwork was not an issue whatsoever. How long would you have to wait in between cycles to keep responding well to AAS?

Example cycle:
10 weeks of Test Prop (100mg/day) and Tren Ace.(70mg/day)

P.S. No offense to Pinnacle for calling him out. He helped me out a lot with my previous thread about this.

**musclestack** · 01-06-2007, 11:55 AM

I would also like to add that I do not condone starting a new cycle without ample time for recovery. This is just a question out of curiosity and educational purposes.

**goose** · 01-06-2007, 11:57 AM

Pinnacle is banned.Great guy,big loss for this place.

**cfiler** · 01-06-2007, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Pinnacle is banned.Great guy,big loss for this place.

Yeah, he hasn't been here for awhile.

**cfiler** · 01-06-2007, 01:29 PM

Well, the general rule of thumb, is time on + pct = minimum time off. Getting your blood work done though, is the best way to find out when you are ready for a new cycle.

For me, if I were to run that cycle, it would probably take me 14-15 weeks untill I was ready to start a new cycle. But everyone is different. Some would not need that long for their body, others would need longer.

**THE PUMP** · 01-06-2007, 01:42 PM

time on equals time off is the way i do it all do ive not cycle in over 6-8 months but have tren e test e d'bol planned for april

**Jefferey** · 01-06-2007, 01:50 PM

The longer off the least amount of a higher dose needed to obtain around the same goals...

In other words if you took off after using Test only @ 500mgs for 10 weeks, you could start another cycle as soon as your have fully recovered and and bloodwork was normal.. The problem here is you may need 750 + mgs to obtain simular results...Now using the above and you took off 2 yrs, you would probably get by with just 500 mgs again..

**stupidhippo** · 01-06-2007, 05:37 PM

there is a great thread here about this matter.. someone who has the link can maybe put it up.. too tired now myself.... in general I feel the more u wait the better u will respond (until a certain point)

**shrpskn** · 01-06-2007, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Pinnacle is banned.Great guy,big loss for this place.

Agreed...I enjoyed many of his contributions to this board before he was booted.

***G-1000*** · 01-06-2007, 06:09 PM

As to your question. time off = time on so they say. If blod work is good you can go back on and have great gains. I just chang up my cycle with diffrent compounds.

**stupidhippo** · 01-07-2007, 04:24 AM

what exactly in the bloodwork says u will have good gains.. I mean what makes the restored HPTA a good indicator that u will respond well to another cycle?

**shrpskn** · 01-07-2007, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by stupidhippo

what exactly in the bloodwork says u will have good gains.. I mean what makes the restored HPTA a good indicator that u will respond well to another cycle?

Good question. Unfortunately I don't have an answer but would like to see one.

**musclestack** · 01-07-2007, 11:37 AM

How long for receptors to clear?

I believe you're talking about this thread. (Could be wrong)

**stupidhippo** · 01-07-2007, 01:31 PM

thats the one.. !! thx..

**musclestack** · 01-08-2007, 12:27 PM

How long, on average, do SHBG levels need to get back to normal?

**musclestack** · 01-09-2007, 11:58 AM

bump

**STB** · 01-09-2007, 12:29 PM

From my experience, (five cycles for the past 2 1/2 years) doing cycle after cycle, even with time on = time off, there is definately a downgrade in the body's response, even with increased dosages.

This year going forward I am just doing one 15 weeker in the summer - I am hoping that my body will be as ready as it could be with 10 months natural. I guess I will find out this summer.

Bluesman