Which one are better for getting the maximum gain

[Pensilneck]

test 1250mg + tren 400mg + masteron 400mg or test 1250mg + deca 650mg + dbol 50mg.

Thanks for opinions guys

[G-1000]

if you had to guess what would you pick?

[Pensilneck]

if you had to guess what would you pick?

I can`t decide which one I run.....Which one of those two kombos give me maximum gain..
I have 18weeks time to crow and then I start compete preparation..

[G-1000]

the better of the two is tren test.
But that dont mean it's best for you.

what are your stats

[Pensilneck]

what are your stats

29 years old, 6`1", 246lbs with max. 10% bf

[KAEW44]

Are the cycles for your pet dinasour?

[Pensilneck]

Are the cycles for your pet dinasour?

Sorry, but now I don`t understand what you mean. Are the dosages too low or what?

Tell me what should I run and how much? 2g of test, 1g of deca etc...


BTW: I have done 7 cycles before this one

[killua]

no, the dosages are high

[Pensilneck]

Well, yeah..
Someone, give some example what gears, how long and how much would you run if looking for maximum gain

[Pensilneck]

anybody????

[ITripMidgets]

for someone taking that much AAS and on his 8th cycle...noone in here can give you better advice then you can give yourself. We don't know what works best for your body and we don't know how you react to these compounds. If you are closing in on a competetion then you should be the one making these decisions...its your body. You're not some newbie looking to gain 22lbs from a test/dbol cycle.

[fLgAtOr]

Are the cycles for your pet dinasour?

BWAHAH

I'm not sure about the dosages, or what "maximum gains" are, but I think cycle #1 would provide better strength as well as more quality mass.

[Pensilneck]

I`m little confused about your opinions about those dosages...

Are 1250mg test/week something insane? Some guys here run +2g/week...
Or 650mg deca/week not to mention 50mg/ed of Dbol. Basic dosages....

And dosages of tren and masteron, I read here that most guys run tren 75mg-100mg/ED, even 150mg/ED and same dosages of Masteron...

Here is example of dosages what I have found here................Not common, but not so uncommon
week 1-16 test-e 2500mg ew
week 1-14 deca 500mg ew
week 1-4 drol 150mg ed
week 14-18 drol 150mg ed

[stupidhippo]

that really aint that much gear imo... for an 8th cycle and if u are a big guy JMO anyways...

[Pensilneck]

that really aint that much gear imo... for an 8th cycle and if u are a big guy JMO anyways...

Thats what I think too...

[GHO5T]

test 1250mg + tren 400mg + masteron 400mg or test 1250mg + deca 650mg + dbol 50mg.

Thanks for opinions guys

IMO if this is going to be your 8th cycle, you should have a very good understanding of what compounds your body responds well too, and what compounds you get the most gains from. You should have no trouble making combos with compounds that you respond well too, and getting very good results

However, for us to further help you, I believe you need to narrow your goals down a bit. What do you mean my "maximum gains", maximum gains in strength, mass,hardness, are you trying to cut or bulk. What are you trying to get out of the cycle?

[Pensilneck]

IMO if this is going to be your 8th cycle, you should have a very good understanding of what compounds your body responds well too, and what compounds you get the most gains from. You should have no trouble making combos with compounds that you respond well too, and getting very good results

However, for us to further help you, I believe you need to narrow your goals down a bit. What do you mean my "maximum gains", maximum gains in strength, mass,hardness, are you trying to cut or bulk. What are you trying to get out of the cycle?

I have knowledge about what gear and combounds fit to me.. I`m only asking here about opinions.

What am I trying to get out of this cycle, maximum mass gain. Like I said I compete later this year and I`m able to run only one good mass cycle before diet.

But thanks guys, thanks for nothing

[Bigmax]

Bro,run the first cycle...Lean gainer and less bloat...Eat plenty of good food.

[Booz]

yes i would takethe 1st cycle all day long,if youm havent ran a cycle like that you should be happy with it...................

[Pensilneck]

Thanks guys Thats what I`m looking for, opinions

[fLgAtOr]

Thanks guys Thats what I`m looking for, opinions

Your dosages aren't outrageous....He just made a funny remark.

Personally, its more test than I would run....I would make up for it with the other compounds. However, you know yourself best, soooo if thats whats best for you, go for it. I tend to be cautious when recommending dosages anyways.

But like I said, cycle #1.

[GHO5T]

I have knowledge about what gear and combounds fit to me.. I`m only asking here about opinions.

What am I trying to get out of this cycle, maximum mass gain. Like I said I compete later this year and I`m able to run only one good mass cycle before diet.

But thanks guys, thanks for nothing

If your going for a strict bulker, IMO cycle number 2 is what i would go for. You can gain more mass with that combo, bulk as much as you can, as you can always cut later.

With a spot on diet and solid training regime, you should yield some impressive results.

Best of luck to you on your upcoming competetion, and keep us posted on how everything goes

[aadrenaline]

what are your goals?

i would think the 1g test 525mg-700mg tren would be your best bet for quality

i dont see anyhting wrong with those doses

[Pensilneck]

what are your goals?

i would think the 1g test 525mg-700mg tren would be your best bet for quality

i dont see anyhting wrong with those doses

My goal are to compete august 2007 at nationals, heavy weight glass. I live in Scandinavia.........

I have run couple of times 1g test and it work pretty nice, but it could work better, thats why I try little bit bigger dosage.
Now I`m gonna take 70mg test prop + 250mg Sustanon and hit that combound EOD, that`s something about ~1200mg/week.

I`m not worth to take that much tren right now, it cost here unbelievable much.
I content to take tren hexa 100mg/eod.
I`m not sure about Masteron but I decide to try low dose of IGF-1 LR3, low dose I mean 20-25mcg/post workout

[flex_w]

thats alot of test

[Pensilneck]

thats alot of test

Not so much, I love test

[stupidhippo]

My goal are to compete august 2007 at nationals, heavy weight glass. I live in Scandinavia.........

haha i knew it from ur name.. possibly finnish? Kynäniska?

[Pensilneck]

haha i knew it from ur name.. possibly finnish? Kynäniska?

LOL ! Yes, I am Finnish kynäniska, you are totally right bro

[perfectbeast2001]

If money were no object then cycle one (or you brew your own).

[Pensilneck]

I started my cycle today and it looks like that:
1-12 test prop 70mg + sustanon 250mg / EOD
1-12 Tren hexa 100mg / EOD (maybe later bumb up the dose little)
1-12 Dbol 50mg / ED (rough for liver, I know, but I can handle it)
1-4 IGF-1 LR3 20-25mcg / post workout
9-12 IGF-1 LR3 20-25mcg / post workout
I also take slin post workout, something between 8-12iu

I save Masteron to my upcoming diet.

[GauchB]

That's a major cycle like my buddy would take. You should deff be 1 hugh ass beast after that if you aren't already.

I think the masteron should been saved until closer to comp as it is very good for cutting but only if your bf is like 6-7% or less.

Good luck and careful with the slin i got a friend who is now a diabetic.