what kind of test for first cycle?

[anabolicarms]

my friends just wants to take his first cycle, his stats are 5'11'' 200, 20% bf, he obviously wants to get more shreded but wants to add mass obviously as well. just wondering about your opinions on what type of testosterone he should take and the pct. he's very scared of shutting down his own natural test that he says he has to have a very hardcore pct. any ideas?

[anabolicarms]

bump... opinions?

[guest589745]

@ 20% BF I would recomend using .5-1.mg of arimidex during the cycle or get bloodwork during to determine what your AI dose should be.

Anyway, prop would be great but enanthate or cypionate is "easier" for a first timer.

I hope he can get his diet/training into check ASAP or he shouldnt even consider using steroids.

Read the PCT forum to learn about PCT.

[Johny-too-small]

Id drop the bf% to around 12% before doing any test, imo. However, Test Enan would be my choice for the newbie cycle. Just about every aas will shut you down (except maybe a mild oral like tbol, but Im sure Im wrong about this one).

[anabolicarms]

could he use liquidex or clomi in stead of armidex?

[guest589745]

could he use liquidex or clomi in stead of armidex?

liquidex is liquid arimidex so yes. Clomid I would save for PCT.

[perfectbeast2001]

work on his diet before test.

[nandro_shagg]

if he's going into his 1rst cycle with that many worries, he needs not to be doing it..ive seen this befor where they take a shot or two or midway in the cycle, and deside to get moral and stop...regardless of his body fat diet and training, he needs to be over the fence or under, not racking his balls midway

[anabolicarms]

no he's doing the cycle. he's made his mind up. what i'm suprised about is how much everybody is bashing the 20% bf. when i bulk in the winter it is not unusual for me to get up 19-20% bf, in fact, i think most people do. then right about new years i begin to shred.

[Jefferey]

Id drop the bf% to around 12% before doing any test, imo. However, Test Enan would be my choice for the newbie cycle. Just about every aas will shut you down (except maybe a mild oral like tbol, but Im sure Im wrong about this one).

I agree totally..It 's very easy to add weight and mass during your first cycle and along with that comes more B/F...

This could knd of folow behind Marcus300 theory....Cut first and then you'll be in a more anabolic position for your gains while cycling.

[nandro_shagg]

people are bashing because he's already 20% not because he's going to get up to that...not that im much better i think im around 12 or so but none the less...if he's going to then i would say 12wks test enanthate or cyp at around 300-500 mg but check around someone else may have a different opinion