*Taking AAS Without Lifting Weights*

[Hellmaskbanned]

Ahhh Nice attention grabber title , I know.

I've been curious about this thought. What if someone was on...Lets say 400mgs/wk of Test & 15 mgs/day of Dbol and he didn't lift upper body , but just walked, Leg presses, leg curls, leg extensions, calve raises, and Crunches.

Is it still possible That his upper body would build up muscle even though he was not lifting upper body?

I'm thinking naturaly it wouldnt grow...Well maybe if you had Fantastic genetics....

but while on AAS what do you think? Yay , Nay?

[spywizard]

so you have a back injury and want to do a cycle working just your lower body??

it should work, there will be some recovery and strengthening of the upperbody as far as ligiments, and joints..

keep a log, love to see how it goes..

[Hellmaskbanned]

HA!

No not crippled yet my friend.

But down the road my injuries might need surgery which will lead to some off lifting time....Am just curious to the topic

I agree about speeding up the recovery times 2.

[perfectbeast2001]

I know quite a few people who have taken AS without training. They started out fat lazy slobs and became fatter by the end of the cycle along with quite a few nice sides - acne, breasts that sort of stuff LOL.

It is popular with Doormen, they just pop Dbol and shoot test to "get big" but they cant be bothered to train!!!

[Hellmaskbanned]

I know quite a few people who have taken AS without training. They started out fat lazy slobs and became fatter by the end of the cycle along with quite a few nice sides - acne, breasts that sort of stuff LOL.

It is popular with Doormen, they just pop Dbol and shoot test to "get big" but they cant be bothered to train!!!

Thats some funny shit.

[fLgAtOr]

Wait...You're supposed to work out on juice?

[Swifto]

"Taking AAS Without Lifting Weights*"....

Isnt that called HRT/TRT?

[ACE24]

Wait...You're supposed to work out on juice?

Your kidding right? No one told me that! LMFAO

[kaberle_15]

There was a study about that in my class, long and the short of it is there are NO gains in strength and/or muscle size if the subject is not involved in any sort of physical activity while on aas. Although normal physcial activity did improve muscular strength while on so I suppose that if one was to just train legs their lower body would gain an increase in strength/size (probably minimal) and the upper body would stay the same.

[STYLE74]

so you have a back injury and want to do a cycle working just your lower body??

it should work, there will be some recovery and strengthening of the upperbody as far as ligiments, and joints..

keep a log, love to see how it goes..

LOL.....i was thinking the same thing.

[Hellmaskbanned]

There was a study about that in my class, long and the short of it is there are NO gains in strength and/or muscle size if the subject is not involved in any sort of physical activity while on aas. Although normal physcial activity did improve muscular strength while on so I suppose that if one was to just train legs their lower body would gain an increase in strength/size (probably minimal) and the upper body would stay the same.

Ahhh Nice info.

Everyone else is off topic mostly lol.

[GetHugeDieTrying]

im suprised that no one has even said this. but here it goes.

Training huge muscle groups (back,chest,legs) forces your body to release testosterone when u push those hard reps, increasing strength. A study was done at my gym with the hockey players and a very well known trainer for olympics. They did Squats only for 2 months. Every single player's bench went up. One players max bench going up 30 lbs.

im sure itd be higher if u add some aas

[skipp]

I don't see how you couldn't gain even a little size/strength, I mean they use steroids to prevent the waisting in people with AIDs. So right off the bat you know it's anti-catabolic, and fighting catabolism is more than half the battle to building muscle.

Makes sense in my world. Get some cheap gear, and inject a lazy buddy while he sleeps. Post results

[Hellmaskbanned]

im suprised that no one has even said this. but here it goes.

Training huge muscle groups (back,chest,legs) forces your body to release testosterone when u push those hard reps, increasing strength. A study was done at my gym with the hockey players and a very well known trainer for olympics. They did Squats only for 2 months. Every single player's bench went up. One players max bench going up 30 lbs.

im sure itd be higher if u add some aas

Thanks nice info.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I don't see how you couldn't gain even a little size/strength, I mean they use steroids to prevent the waisting in people with AIDs. So right off the bat you know it's anti-catabolic, and fighting catabolism is more than half the battle to building muscle.

Makes sense in my world. Get some cheap gear, and inject a lazy buddy while he sleeps. Post results

HA!

That would be one hell of a friend!

[lanky]

i cant quote any sources but i remember taking an anatomy class and learning that your upper body grows in proportion to your lower body, but not the other way around hence y many people have the beach body look (huge upper body and no legs) so i imagine your upper body would grow but obviously no where near as much as if you worked out the muscles

[stick boy]

I read a 'couch potato study' somwhere, and yes the people gained muscle and lost fat. The results varied of course, but some gained quite a lot.

[GetHugeDieTrying]

i cant quote any sources but i remember taking an anatomy class and learning that your upper body grows in proportion to your lower body, but not the other way around hence y many people have the beach body look (huge upper body and no legs) so i imagine your upper body would grow but obviously no where near as much as if you worked out the muscles

Very true, But if you work your legs twice as hard 2x a week, your upper body grows twice as fast. It works, Try it. Results guarnteed.

[T3/T4 GSR]

I would def add HGH to that stack if part of your goal is to recover from an injury.

[crash187ct]

i wouldn't hope for too much muscle gain without training lol. to me, i would consider it a waste of money....


but if its injury related....try to not go crazy as you shrink

[GetHugeDieTrying]

I think the bottom line on this topic is, you have to tear the muscle to create muscle. Without lifting heavy weights i cannot see People without the (**perfect genetics**) getting anything from it. Just do recovery training untill you can excerise correctly again.(imo)

[rhino1]

Very true, But if you work your legs twice as hard 2x a week, your upper body grows twice as fast. It works, Try it. Results guarnteed.

Don't mean to hijack the thread but is this true what you say about 2x leg workout being more beneficial for upper body?

If so....what ways...I mean....I know squat uses the whole body but I never figured it would improve upper body 100%.

[fLgAtOr]

Don't mean to hijack the thread but is this true what you say about 2x leg workout being more beneficial for upper body?

If so....what ways...I mean....I know squat uses the whole body but I never figured it would improve upper body 100%.

No its not true.

As far as the original question:

I wouldn't see anything wrong with running a low dosed cycle to help maintain upper body mass....Maybe IGF would be more appropriate here.

[zaggahamma]

"Taking AAS Without Lifting Weights*"....

Isnt that called HRT/TRT?

[zaggahamma]

I don't see how you couldn't gain even a little size/strength, I mean they use steroids to prevent the waisting in people with AIDs. So right off the bat you know it's anti-catabolic, and fighting catabolism is more than half the battle to building muscle.

Makes sense in my world. Get some cheap gear, and inject a lazy buddy while he sleeps. Post results

[GetHugeDieTrying]

No its not true.

As far as the original question:

I wouldn't see anything wrong with running a low dosed cycle to help maintain upper body mass....Maybe IGF would be more appropriate here.

legs are the one thing people skimp out on cuz of the pain of working them. Try actually bustin 2 leg workouts a week, to the point where you puke and cant walk. Watch how quikc you grow.

[MikeCman]

Ahhh Nice attention grabber title , I know.

I've been curious about this thought. What if someone was on...Lets say 400mgs/wk of Test & 15 mgs/day of Dbol and he didn't lift upper body , but just walked, Leg presses, leg curls, leg extensions, calve raises, and Crunches.

Is it still possible That his upper body would build up muscle even though he was not lifting upper body?

I'm thinking naturaly it wouldnt grow...Well maybe if you had Fantastic genetics....

but while on AAS what do you think? Yay , Nay?

I actually took a nutrition class in which the professor was pretty cool and we talked about this topic. He stated that "yes" the upper body will grow naturally with the lower body, but it doesn't work the other way around. You cant lift upper body and expect the lower body to grow. As to how much Im not sure.

[fLgAtOr]

legs are the one thing people skimp out on cuz of the pain of working them. Try actually bustin 2 leg workouts a week, to the point where you puke and cant walk. Watch how quikc you grow.

Most definently...I'm sure it would increase growth. I just thought you were being sarcastic with the "x2 as fast" remark. My bad. Personally, I don't get the kind of rest/nutrition for that kind of demand...Can't even Dead and Squat in the same week. I know what you're saying though.

[bbplaya21]

yo hell mask did u have that surgery?? i can say from personal axperience that i didnt work upper body very little to none cuz of my Tommy John surgery. I had to ake it easy on legs cuz they took the ligament out of my hamstring so any heavy weights for 14 weeks were out of the questions. But i gained about 10 lbs still not to bad for doinin light weights and my cardio was nothing but walking to very light jogging. My doses were at 500 to 600mgs a week of test e. I wanted to take dbol but didnt have any. and yes i recovered at least half the amount of time on AAS cuz me and two friends were on AAS and one was NOT and he was a few weeks benind us 3.

[scriptfactory]

There was a study about that in my class, long and the short of it is there are NO gains in strength and/or muscle size if the subject is not involved in any sort of physical activity while on aas. Although normal physcial activity did improve muscular strength while on so I suppose that if one was to just train legs their lower body would gain an increase in strength/size (probably minimal) and the upper body would stay the same.

Actually I read a study that had four different groups; one trained with steroids, one trained without steroids, one took only steroids with no training and one group just laid around (lol). The group that trained and took steroids gained the most muscle mass and strength. The group that only took steroids with no training gained more muscle mass and strength than the group that trained and didn't take steroids! I'll see if I can find it again.

The point is, anabolic steroids increase muscle mass and strength even without training.

[pigrond]

ive seen pics of a couple of dudes all they worked were there arms and chest they had beer guts and chicken legs but their chest and arms were fn huge they looked freaky

[Ufa]

I would def add HGH to that stack if part of your goal is to recover from an injury.

Solid!

[Maldorf]

Actually I read a study that had four different groups; one trained with steroids, one trained without steroids, one took only steroids with no training and one group just laid around (lol). The group that trained and took steroids gained the most muscle mass and strength. The group that only took steroids with no training gained more muscle mass and strength than the group that trained and didn't take steroids! I'll see if I can find it again.

The point is, anabolic steroids increase muscle mass and strength even without training.

I think that might make sense, because if you look at what happens to boys when they hit puberty and the test starts to flow. I know personally I didnt grow any taller after age 14, but went from 145 pounds to 185 pounds by the age 18. A lot of this might have been due to my bodybuilding, but some of it had to be just natural growth. Other guys my age filled out too, even though they just sat around and did no exercise.

[guildwars05]

My experience with this.

(Now remember I have a maxed out natural BASE at this point and hit my max genetic potential)

I have recently been on anadrol, deca, test, winny cycle.

so far only the first 3 at this point, But I have actually lifted less than usual, but I have seen a dramatic increase in strength, vascularity, size, and this is without much water retention, suprising huh?

I actually have been seeing huge gains without lifting, I dont recommend doing this, but I wanted to try this out. (interesting how you came up with this question) If you do cardio, simple lunges, light weights, you will still gain size, I have no doubt about that (also depends on your genetics im sure) But to make this long story short..


I have seen great gains (not fat or water) from taking AAS without working out. (scary but true)

[zk7]

Well HRT Patients take Testosterone and never lift weights and they gain muscle.

Prisoners of War, as well as many sick people stay in Bed all day, and take Testosterone Shots and eat their protein and they grow.

Animals , Heffers who are injected Hormones into them so they get bigger for more steaks production, they dont lift weights they just eat and grow.

[zaggahamma]

Well HRT Patients take Testosterone and never lift weights and they gain muscle.

Prisoners of War, as well as many sick people stay in Bed all day, and take Testosterone Shots and eat their protein and they grow.

Animals , Heffers who are injected Hormones into them so they get bigger for more steaks production, they dont lift weights they just eat and grow.

yeh, man...look how big and strong them gorillas are

On a serious note though, to set the record straight....a lot of HRT patients lift weights and lift/train hard but I know that some don't and supposedly gain LBM over time according to the charts I've seen.

[MuscleScience]

in just about every medical paper out there when they give subjects some sort of AAS they all gain lean muscle mass without lifting. Granted its not like if they were lifting but most medicine isnt conserned if someone exercises because they no nothing about it. They just want to see what happens if they give a 50 something male, or bed stricken accident victim AAS to see if they will put on muscle mass.

[guest589745]

After your surgery hellmask, I would recommend to possibly take a small amount of nandrolone (With test preferably) to assist healing, depending on what type of surgery it is to a degree. It has done wonders for my shoulder. It IMO, will help you get back into training that specific part of your body sooner.

[stick boy]

Well HRT Patients take Testosterone and never lift weights and they gain muscle.

Prisoners of War, as well as many sick people stay in Bed all day, and take Testosterone Shots and eat their protein and they grow.

Animals , Heffers who are injected Hormones into them so they get bigger for more steaks production, they dont lift weights they just eat and grow.

Prisoners of war? Sign me up for the POW thing if they torture you with test.