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[clements22]

i am about to run my second cycle im 22 190lbs 5'11 been training for 7 years

i am about to run something like this

test e 1-10 500wk
eq 1-10 400wk
dbol 1-3 50 daily

but i also was think of adding tren at the end and running it like this

test e 1-16
eq 1-10
dbol 1-3
tren 10-16 about 400mgs a week

whats your opinions on this? what could i expect as far as gains?

[shrpskn]

I like option 2 better, except I would run the EQ out an additional 2 weeks for optimal results. And maybe go an additional week with the dbol for an optimal kicker to the cycle.

If this will be your first go with tren, best bet will be to start out with tren acetate injections at least EOD, but preferably ED...and no higher than 50-75mg/ed.

Be sure to have all your ancillaries on hand before you start.

Good luck,

[Jefferey]

i am about to run my second cycle im 22 190lbs 5'11 been training for 7 years

i am about to run something like this

test e 1-10 500wk
eq 1-10 400wk
dbol 1-3 50 daily

but i also was think of adding tren at the end and running it like this

test e 1-16
eq 1-10
dbol 1-3
tren 10-16 about 400mgs a week

whats your opinions on this? what could i expect as far as gains?

no need for 4 compounds for a cycle cycle..try to keep them as simple as possible..Learn to eat and even 1-2 compounds will give you added size and strength

[SMAN12b]

I am thinking that you need some work on your diet. If you already did ONE cycle and are still under 200 lbs, then you are not eating correctly.
and you are adding too many compounds for a second cycle. What was your first?? and what were your gains off the first cycle

[clements22]

I like option 2 better, except I would run the EQ out an additional 2 weeks for optimal results. And maybe go an additional week with the dbol for an optimal kicker to the cycle.

If this will be your first go with tren, best bet will be to start out with tren acetate injections at least EOD, but preferably ED...and no higher than 50-75mg/ed.

Be sure to have all your ancillaries on hand before you start.

Good luck,

yea i heard you should run eg 12 week min

i dont know if i could get acetate but i know for sure i could get the ethnate (sp)ester...what dose would you recommend for the ethnate ester?first time i will be using this....

[clements22]

I am thinking that you need some work on your diet. If you already did ONE cycle and are still under 200 lbs, then you are not eating correctly.
and you are adding too many compounds for a second cycle. What was your first?? and what were your gains off the first cycle

500 mgs of sus weekly and tbol 30-40 then uped it to over a 100 daily i didnt gain any weight but i think i lost some water weight...i dont think the compounds were strong enough to effect me

[SMAN12b]

500 mgs of sus weekly and tbol 30-40 then uped it to over a 100 daily i didnt gain any weight but i think i lost some water weight...i dont think the compounds were strong enough to effect me

AAS does not work without constant nutrition intake!! PERIOD !! increasing your dose when you do not increase your calories properly will do NOTHING for growth!!

You need to be eating 6-8 meals everyday spaced 2.5-3 hours apart or the AAS is not gonna work the way you want it. THat is like asking a plane to fly without any fuel.....it just drops out of the sky!!!

[clements22]

AAS does not work without constant nutrition intake!! PERIOD !! increasing your dose when you do not increase your calories properly will do NOTHING for growth!!

You need to be eating 6-8 meals everyday spaced 2.5-3 hours apart or the AAS is not gonna work the way you want it. THat is like asking a plane to fly without any fuel.....it just drops out of the sky!!!

i do

[pumpd4lif]

yes the eq is the only thing i would change run for atleast 12 weeks and no less then 500mg ew

[pigrond]

add 2 wks to the dbol and add insome proviron and yes extend eq 2 wks

[duramaxedge]

if its your first time running tren I wouldnt recommend going with enanthe ester.. sides are worse (so ive heard) they say for less sides run tren a with ed injections... as everyone else has said.. why not try something simple.. test e @ 12wks, drop the eq.. run your dbol kicker 40mg ed for 3 wks, and try some masteron instead.. I would vote against the tren.. just imo.. save the tren for a nice prop cycle..

J

[clements22]

have any of you ran a dbol test and eq cycle and what were your gains?

im going to extend the eq to 12 weeks

[pigrond]

dbol 6 wks started at 25 mg a day last 2 wks 50 mg aday 2-3 hrs before workout also used andropen 275 e3d and decca 250 e3d proviron 25mg aday gained about 23lbs in 6 wks bench went up from 175 to 300+ in that time when i started i was out of shape so i probably would have had much better gains .anyway once i dropped the dbol i lost about 12lbs in 2 wks and stayed around 212 lbs for awhile. at the end of my cycle which was a bit screwed up due to not having my test for a wk or so here and there i weighed 210 my start weight was 200lbs and i had a beer gut bf was very high i used clen for 4wks through my pct which included nolva and letro not at the same time i currently weigh 194lbs my bf is low and getting lower im not cut yet but it aint far away i can curl more now than when i was on curl is 150 on the curl bar my bench is max at 270 dead lift is 340+ using straps leg press is over 500 im planning on using eq on my next cycle with dbol or anadrol kicker at 50mg aday for 6 wks i was going to use decca but changed my mind id rather be more ripped than huge.the test will be test cyp at 600mg wk and eq 400mgwk

[shrpskn]

yea i heard you should run eg 12 week min

i dont know if i could get acetate but i know for sure i could get the ethnate (sp)ester...what dose would you recommend for the ethnate ester?first time i will be using this....

Forget about the tren.

I think tren is a compound for use by more advanced AAS users.

Based on what you've said, I'd run your cycle as follows:

1-4 Dbol @ 30mg/ed (10mg, dosed 3x daily)
1-13 Test E 500mg/wk
1-12 EQ 600mg/wk

Be sure to have all ancillaries "on hand" before you run the cycle.

PCT starting week 16.

With proper diet, training, and rest this cycle should more than suffice your needs.

Good luck,

[clements22]

Forget about the tren.

I think tren is a compound for use by more advanced AAS users.

Based on what you've said, I'd run your cycle as follows:

1-4 Dbol @ 30mg/ed (10mg, dosed 3x daily)
1-13 Test E 500mg/wk
1-12 EQ 600mg/wk

Be sure to have all ancillaries "on hand" before you run the cycle.

PCT starting week 16.

With proper diet, training, and rest this cycle should more than suffice your needs.

Good luck,

thanks for the feedback...have some anti e's(about 80 2o mg nolvas and some armosin) right now im just about to order the gear