No way its possible to feel it THIS quick, is it?

[sircharles]

I had made a previous post about cycles and timelines concerning sides. Ironic I did, b/c now I have something I might be dealing with.

Cycle info: Test-e, 500mg/Week (frontloaded the first week).

I did the 1st injecting of 500mg last monday morning, the 2nd thursday nite (also 500mg). This morning did my 3rd, this time at 250mg.

I know in my head that this stuff takes a few weeks to kick in, and that sides are minimal at best (ie. sex drive, agression), BUT all day yesterday and today (especially tonight), I have been a LOT quicker to snap and get aggravated and feel on edge, so much so, a buddy even noticed it.

I know my mind isnt tricking my body into placeboing a side, so WTF could be going on? 2-day mood swing (doubt it)?

Just a confused newbie looking for a thought from a vet.....

[JohnboyF]

Placebo man.... Its your mind playin tricks on you

[Manpretty]

Placebo man.... Its your mind playin tricks on you

yep....or your having man pms

[sircharles]

Cool. Just wanted to double check and make sure Sounds dumb, but its hard to believe the ole grey matter can do that.

[king6]

Cool. Just wanted to double check and make sure Sounds dumb, but its hard to believe the ole grey matter can do that.

Happened to me the other day, on the second day of my cycle.

[sircharles]

No kidding? What cycle are you on?

I may sound like a idiot, but that 'fake aggression' feels awfully real

[king6]

Test E 500mg/week
Dbol 40mg/day

I'm not normally agressive, but I do have my moments. The other day was just a bad day and probably fueled by the placebo effect.

[sircharles]

Sounds like a good cycle. I was supposed to be doing Deca at 400mg/Week, but had a prob w/the powder Apparently it has a very odd melting point and it turned to goo one day.

Im still looking to throw something else in here that will go well with the test-e, just having trouble finding something you can start a few weeks AFTER starting test.

[king6]

Sounds like a good cycle. I was supposed to be doing Deca at 400mg/Week, but had a prob w/the powder Apparently it has a very odd melting point and it turned to goo one day.

Im still looking to throw something else in here that will go well with the test-e, just having trouble finding something you can start a few weeks AFTER starting test.

I think prop would be ok. Depends on how long after you started the cycle. If it is 3 weeks, you might as well wait for the test to kick in. Dbol is pretty fast acting, I'm on day 5 and I look a little more swole. I think.

[sircharles]

Haha, "I think" paranoid about placebo?

Are you running the dbol the whole cycle (ie. test for 13 weeks, dbol the same).

[Son Of Khadafi]

You're nervous as hell about your cycle, calm down or its just gonna get worse. Raging is largely BS, some stuff like tren and drol can make you anxious under stress, but how you react isn't controlled by the AAS.

[king6]

Haha, "I think" paranoid about placebo?

Are you running the dbol the whole cycle (ie. test for 13 weeks, dbol the same).

No just a 4 week kickstart. If I had to do it again, I would have used prop for the kickstart.

[worldpower]

i usually feel test enth in about 5 days,so i think it is possible, it must have something to do with you body chemistry

[sircharles]

Yeah I think its a little pointless to try a kick start for me, as im almost done with my 2nd week of 14. thanx for the info.

[sircharles]

i usually feel test enth in about 5 days,so i think it is possible, it must have something to do with you body chemistry

5 days? I didnt even think that was possible

I guess body chemistry could be a reason. I know I am a LOT more sensitive and quicker responding to supplements than all of my bros I work out with.

[king6]

i usually feel test enth in about 5 days,so i think it is possible, it must have something to do with you body chemistry

5 days!? Wow, wish I had that.

[MartyMcFly]

Look into some Var. Maybe expensive but good to add at end of cycle and sides are controllable.

[sircharles]

I read about that a while ago, but hadnt really given it a second thought. Thanx for reminding me. 60mg/ED for weeks 9-14 (plus the 2 week gap in which Im off test-e, waiting to start PCT) would give me 8 total weeks of the Anavar.

Weeks 1-14 = Test-e, 500mg/Week
Weeks 9-16 = Anavar, 60mg/ED
Weeks 16+ = PCT

Sounds like a goooood plan.

[edit] - Would it be to late to start Deca about 4-5 weeks into the test-e cycle?

[MartyMcFly]

Deca would be too late it needs 12 weeks. Your plan looks good. I start tomorrow on 1-12 Test E 500/wk 8-14 Var 50/day 16-body normal PCT

[sircharles]

Keep an eye out, I'll have a log up of the progress.

[oldschoolifter]

Dude I Have Felt Deca Work In 6 Days, Felt Sustanon Work In 4 Days! And Real Oldschool Anadrol From Syntex In Palo Alto Work In Just 3 Days. I Feel Tren And Cyp In About 4-5 Days As Well.

I Know This Sounds Like Bull But Its True. I Am Really Tuned Into How Aas Work And How M Body Responds. But Get This I Cant Feel Hcg Work For 4 Weeks.

Also My Gains Start At About Day 7. I Have A Question For Anyone Who Is Experienced With Tren. I Have Made It 3 Times Now, And The First Time Was The Homemade Way.

I Had A 10g Kit Yet I Bought A Complete Box So Thats 10 Carts Which Is 20 Grams, Correct? I Filled 7 20ml Bottles To The Brim And My Calculations Is That My Concentration Is 141mg Of Trenbolone Acetate Per 1ml Of Cottonseed Oil.

Has Anyone Ever Made Tren Over 100mg Per Ml And Do You Think There Was Enough Ba An Bb Tp Keep It Sterile An Purified Since I Use A Kit That Was Amde For 5 Carts Yet I Used 10.

The Stuff Came Out Perfectly Golden Light Brown, Just Like The Pics Online. And There Is No Crystals Precipitating Out. I Think I Lucked Out. Any Thoughts Here Guys? Did I Luck Out?

One Concern Is That The Shots Are Pretty Much Painless, Before When I Used Tren It Used To Hurt, Im Assuming Its Because There Was Less Ba In The Dissolving Solution.

Im An Oldschool Guy And Im Not Familiar With These Deca,test,eq Powders All You Guys Are Talking About. When Did Sources Start Supplying Pure Powders For Home Brew Conversions? Or Does The Powder Come From Chem Research Comps? Thats So Awesome That Someone Can Make There Own Test E Or Deca Now. Thanks God For Science.

[aadrenaline]

im sure ur constantly thinking about the cycle and excited that your manifesting it without realizing it. remember the human mind is a very very very strong force within yourself.

[oldschoolifter]

[edit] - Would it be to late to start Deca about 4-5 weeks into the test-e cycle?[/QUOTE]


I THINK DECA WOULD BE FINE TO ADD IN AT WEEKS 4-5. YOU CAN THEN BE ON DECA FOR 8 WEEKS IF YOU DO A 12 WEEK CYCLE WITH TEST E.

IF YOU USE 400MG TO 800MG OF DECA A WEEK IN WEEKS 4-12 YOU WILL SURELY GET GREAT GAINS FROM IT IN COMBO WITH YOUR OTHER GEAR. I KNOW FROM MY OWN CYCLES, TRUST IT!!

DECA WORKS VERY FAST, DONT BELIEVE THE 4 WEEK RULE THAT SEEMS TO BE A COMMON MISCONCEPTION. I THINK DECA GOES ACTIVE IN ONE WEEK AND SHOWS GOOD GAINS IN ONLY 2 WEEKS. KEEP IN MIND THIS IS IN DOSAGES OVER 400MG EVERY WEEK.

IF DOING ONLY 100-200MG THEN NO IT WONT DO MUCH FOR YOUR CYCLE.

THIS IS JUST MY 2 CENTS.

IF I WAS YOU I WOULD STACK D-BOL WITH THE TEST E. ITS A GREAT STRENGTH AND MASS BUILDING STACK. I KNOW ITS HEAVY IN THE ANDROGENS SIDE BUT IT WILL MAKE YOUR BENCH SORE THROUGH THE ROOF!!! AN WHO DEOSNT LIKE A HUGE BENCH??

[bigfish]

If you're using test e at 500 mg and you're feeling it like that fast, I woulf think that you're stuff is good but labeled incorrectly. I'm on week 3 of 600mg test e , 600 mg of eq, and 300 mg tren e. I gained ten pounds so far and that's with using exemestane and nolvadex to combat bloat (which I had for the first week), I do not feel stronger or or more agressive though. i think strenght and agression doesn't usually come unril the 4th or 5th week though.

[sircharles]

Yeah, I too have gained weight in 2 weeks, around 8lbs (I dont notice anything but some people have said they see it in my face/shoulders, said I look like Im getting a *little* thicker).

And Im doing the same as you, downing Nolva everyday (plus the proviron) to stop water weight. If Im gaining this quick early, I cant wait for this stuff to kick in

[dhriscerr]

Looks good man, Im starting monday I think with Test E 500mgs a week for 12 weeks, Frontloading also after reading your last thread, Im not going to run anything but test for this cycle, but already looking into cycle 2 so if you get var, make sure you keep up with your post cause I wanna read about your progress. I was going to kickstart with something but I want to see how test does for me before I start adding. Ill be watching bro!

[sircharles]

Update from today:

Something has to be up b/c I weighed in today before I worked out (just got done taking a visit to the lil lifters room, so I know it wasnt extra weight there) and Im up 9 lbs since I started.

I highly doubt it's water weight (I think I mentioned Im on 25mg Proviron/ED and 10mg Nolva).

[Huckster]

Good work bro! What's your age? and BF%?

[sircharles]

24, and bodyfat (i need to get a re-check on it, its been a while) was last around 12.5%).

Its weird b/c there is NO visible fatty weight put on, so I cant figure out where the he!! its going