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    First cycle ever. Masteron and Test P.

    Hi everyone!

    I'm thinking of taking AS soon. It will be my first time ever, and maybe the only one ever also, atleast for a couple of years to come.
    I have read ALOT of info on the web, specially here on this forum. Also have been looking on what people are running and at what doses.
    I've decided that the best out there for me is Test Propionate + Masterone.

    Dosage:
    1-10 500mg Test P/wk
    1-10 500mg Masterone/wk

    PCT: 100mg for 2 weeks and then 50mg for 1-2 weeks to come
    PCT will be clomid only, as i probebly can't get anything else.

    I will be injecting around 70-75mg of each ED.

    Why i chose Test P and masterone ?
    Becouse based on what I read Masterone needs to be injected ED, so Test P will go well together. Also Test P will give me the best results when injected every day. And mostley because of sides. Test P is the one that has less sides, and would I to get Gyno or something I can QUIT right off and start my Clomid.
    Also im looking at shooting it in diffrent muscle every day. In other words, I will be shooting it in the muscles I am going to train that day.

    So. I got some blanks that i need to fill out, and that I need you experianced people to help me with.

    I want to gain "muscle only", thats why i chose the masterone, plus masterone keeps some sides away...

    Have I got my facts right ?
    Do you think this is the way to go for me ?
    Is the dosage right ?
    Should I inject before or after I go to the gym ?
    Will this cycle give me good gains, in muscle mass ?
    Should I be worried about something ?
    Am I good to go ?

    You will have to excuse me for my somewhat bad english.

    Help my out guy's. Thanks!
    Last edited by Markosterone; 04-08-2007 at 06:30 PM.

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    you can get the longer estered masteron mate.................
    1st cycle sorry but test e or cyp 4-500mg weekly 12 weeks imo thats all you need,stick with the 1 compound for your 1st cycle and see how you react to it,each time after you cycle you can add other compounds and see how you react to them....................
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    21 still in my eyes is borderline for steroid use as your natty test is still in abundance..........................
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    you can get nolvadex from this site mate,you will need nolvadex with your clomid so i suggest you order some forthwith.....................
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    70+ shots....ouch

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    Ok

    But dont you think I Will get alot of "bloat" ?

    I thougt I add the masterone so I wouldn't get sides... bad idea ?

    Its becouse of the masterone I choosed the test P also...

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    oh yeah howd you come to the conclusion that prop has less sides than the other esters??
    im not raggin on you mate was just wonderin how you came by that when everybody reacts differently to each compound..............
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    you can still get bloat with prop mate,albeit not as much as you may get with enanth or cyp,tho i dont bloat with test myself..............
    seriously imo i would just start with the 1 compound,test.
    if you wanna go with prop then go with prop but you do not need to run another compound in you very 1st cycle...........
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    I thought that if maybe i was to react bad to test, i could quit it. and as its a short ester it goes out of the system faster and i can start clomid directy to avoid the sides...mostly im worried about B-Tits.

    I know I might be a bit young. but im thinking of waiting to maybe after summer to start the cycle.

    I thought test was test, just the difftent "speed" on them...

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    ok, well if its recommended to run test only, then there is no need to runt the prop...

    I first tought about only using test cyp...

    but then i read about the masterone and it sounded like a good compuond to add to test...

    the reason why I want to do a cycle, is that i have problem gaining weight.
    Im longest in my family also, so even if i gain weight it doesn't show on me..

    also now i have come to a piont where I am in the same weight all the time.

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    masteron is a drug that will give you strenght and harden you up,not really for size and your BF really should be low to see the compound working fully...
    if you want to run the prop thats not a problem,the longer actin esters are genually recommended so their aint as many jabs for a 1st time user...........
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    well the only real reson i wantet masteron was becouse it reduced the sides...
    so sure i can skip it.

    me and my brothers are all hard. we have alot of strenght and are strong looking at our bodies and depenging on the "volume"...

    well then. what dose should i runt if using the test cyp ?

    and do i really need to runt 12 veeks ? is'nt 10 enougt for a first timer ?

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    it's jus that the mire you gain while on a cycle, the more you will keep.

    since it takes anywhere from 4-7 weeks for enanthate or cyp to kick in, it is better to do at least 12 weeks so your body has around 6 weeks with peak levels.

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    how much can i expect me to gain on a cycle with say 500mg/wk for 12 weeks
    in Kg would be great. we europeans you know hehe

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    if using prop. will it kick in sooner and will i see gains sooner also ?

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    well it all depends on your diet and training. at most you can probable expect around 15 kg, but that is optimum. i am currently on test enanthate 500mg/week and in my 10th week. so far i've put on 12kg. but i live for bodybuilding and consume around 5000-6000 calories a day. just remember, everyone is different. some people have reported 1 or 2 kg gains and that's all. of course, if you don't know how to gain naturally then you can't expect to gain with gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus_d
    if using prop. will it kick in sooner and will i see gains sooner also ?

    yes, prop will kick in sooner and you should see some gains within a week but so many jabs, and very painful injections at that. virgin muscles hurt even with easy compounds like enanthate. trust me, stay with enanthate or cyp, unless you enjoy every day painful injections.

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    Thats good reading man I am learning alot from it to. Good Luck with everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus_d
    how much can i expect me to gain on a cycle with say 500mg/wk for 12 weeks
    in Kg would be great. we europeans you know hehe
    this will vary considerabley from person to person and would totally depend on your diet and training

    i gained 33lbs (15Kg) on my first 12 week cycle of test E (Dbol for the first 4 weeks) but i ate like a pig and gained a lot of fat/water

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    I think i will do the cyp then.

    well, i do actully gain. i have gained about 10kg+ in around 2-2.5 year on only real food and some gainer. but i tend to put on fat easy with gainer.

    my goal is to gain atleat 10kg and trying to keep that. and if i can do that i probebly will not do another cycle, cuz i know once i do another it will probely continue hehe...

    I just want to gain some muscle and se if my body can handle it, and if i can keep it up without more gear.
    if my body cant handle the mass. there is no reason to do more cycles cuz then i will have to do cycles every year...

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    can I still inject test cyp in the muscle i am goint to train that day ?
    will it give me better results that way ?

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    Dude i know your trying to get info on this post but if you search the forum then you'll find all the ordinary AAS answers you quest/need....

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    ok, thx

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    I'd definatly advise 500w test P, and 500w Masteron

    Just be prepared to shoot a lot. Its one of my favorite combos.

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    yeah, well I am considuring to do so...

    maybe try to get ahold of the longer workoing masteron, not sure i can though...

    I only want one cycle, and then if im happy with the results i probebly ain't going to have another.
    thats why I want it to be a good one from the beginning.

    I'll have to think about it.

    thanx for the advise everyone!

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