New Cycle Help!!!

**tommy3587** · 01-16-2007, 06:06 PM

whats up everyone, this is my first post and im pretty much new to this whole steriod thing, i got basic knowlege of it but i did one 10 week cycle back in august of andropen 275mg per week, and primobol 100mg per week, and i gained about 20 pounds which was tight and ive been off of it for like 15 weeks or so and now im about 6'3 225 and im about to start a new 15 week cycle consisting of the same andropen and winstrol . Now my 1st question is that i thought i could take the same amt of andropen which was 275mg a week for 15 weeks and i thought i would still see good results but im hearing that since i took that much my first cycle i should bump that up to something higher to like 550mg a week and im not sure if i need to up my dosage every cycle like that. and my 2nd question is that i was planning to throw in winstrol in there at week 10 and stay on it from weeks 10-20(which is 5 weeks after my test is done) and im hearing 2 completely different things on how to take my winstrol. I've heard i should take 50mg's everyday for 5 weeks but when i asked someone at the gym today they said that was kinda crazy since this is my only 2nd cycle and my 1st time taking winstrol so he said jsut take 50mg 3 times a week for 10 weeks and im not sure who to beleive on that one. I know this is a long ass post but any info would be awesome. thx guys

**Tesla** · 01-16-2007, 06:48 PM

double the andropen dosage and drop the winny altogether.

**donberry427** · 01-16-2007, 08:52 PM

bump for tombo

**donberry427** · 01-16-2007, 09:44 PM

Well since no one wants to make a comment to this honest person... Here are my thoughts:

I would go with this cycle:

week 1-12: 250mg Test E and 275mg Andropen

Or

weeks 1-12: 550mg Andropen

then PCT

I would save the Winstrol for a cutting cycle:

100mg EOD (every other day) Test prop weeks 1-12
75mg EOD Trenbolone acetate weeks 1-12
And throw the winstrol in 50mg ED weeks 9-12

**tommy3587** · 01-16-2007, 11:40 PM

why would i want to drop the winny

**hugovsilva** · 01-17-2007, 02:53 AM

week 1-12: Andropen at 550 mg/week
week 9-14: winny at 50 mg/day

If you can get some proviron I would thow it in all cycle long and pct at 50 mg/day.

Start pct 2 days after last winny shot.

Just my opinion.

**hugovsilva** · 01-17-2007, 02:55 AM

fir the winny you could do it:

week 7-14

Just try not to go over 8 weeks, due to its liver toxicity.

**donberry427** · 01-17-2007, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by hugovsilva

Just try not to go over 8 weeks, due to its liver toxicity.

True.

**JEEP_XJ_4x4** · 01-17-2007, 04:29 AM

My first thoughts would be to look here :
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199854

then here :
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=104

then here :
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234

Then if you still have some questions, bump this post with any modifications(via editing your original).

Personally, I think the Winny would be fine with it. I might keep it at 50mg/ED at weeks 10-15. It seems 2-3 weeks is the norm for running winny past whatever Test you are running(but this might only be because of Test Enanthate ).

IMO....I don't think doubling your dose every time is a good thing. Especially since your just new to this. Read up a little more prior to this cycle and any other one you decide to do.