Cycle Help Tren A/ Test P/ Winny or???

[stacked566]

Hey bros, here are my stats and history...
5'9" 212lbs 21yrs old 11-13%BF
1st cycle- deca/sust deca @ 200mg, sust @ 300mg
2nd cycle- deca/test e/ dbol dbol@ 40mg, deca @ 300mg, test e @ 500mg

I was thinking of this
Wks 1-8 Test prop @ 100mg ed
Wks 1-6 Tren A @ 75mg ed
Weeks 3-7 Winstrol @ 100mg ED
Wks 1-7 T3 @ 25mcg ed

Letro @ 1mg ed (switching to nolva @ the end to prevent estrogen rebound)
PCT:
Nolva @ 20mg ed
Clomid
Clenbuterol

I am looking to hit 9-10%BF and sit at about 205-210lbs total. Is there anything wrong with this cycle? I know about the tren sides, but hope to be able to deal with them. Is there anything else I should add as a preventative? I am thinking about adding injectable B12 to cut the prop and tren with so as to ease the pain. I will be injecting quads/ chest/ glutes. Any suggestions bros I would greatly appreciate it.

[stacked566]

bump

[hugovsilva]

I am planning to do the same cycle only at lower dosages, longer duration.
It will be something like this:

w 1-12: test prop @ 50mg ED
w 1-12: tren ace @ 37,5 mg ED
w 6-12: winny @ 50 mg ED
Proviron all cycle long and pct @ 50mg ED
w 4-12: t3 (50 micrograms, tappering up and down)
clen all cycle long @ 80-100 mcg ED (also tappering, with benadryl ev 3rd week)

If I were you I would remove clomid from the pct and would add hcg to help the testes get going. Add some aromatase blocker like proviron or try an AI.
I would run the cycle a little longer, like 10 weeks, that's up to you. You may be liking it too much, and still be making good gains at week 8, and it would be a shame to stop then.
I am aiming at 12 weeks, but if I feel like I have stopped gaining before, I will end the cycle and run pct.(I will give winstrol at least 5 weeks, so at best I will stop at week 10).

That's my 2c.

[donberry427]

I am planning to do the same cycle only at lower dosages, longer duration.
It will be something like this:

w 1-12: test prop @ 50mg ED
w 1-12: tren ace @ 37,5 mg ED
w 6-12: winny @ 50 mg ED
Proviron all cycle long and pct @ 50mg ED
w 4-12: t3 (50 micrograms, tappering up and down)
clen all cycle long @ 80-100 mcg ED (also tappering, with benadryl ev 3rd week)

If I were you I would remove clomid from the pct and would add hcg to help the testes get going. Add some aromatase blocker like proviron or try an AI.
I would run the cycle a little longer, like 10 weeks, that's up to you. You may be liking it too much, and still be making good gains at week 8, and it would be a shame to stop then.
I am aiming at 12 weeks, but if I feel like I have stopped gaining before, I will end the cycle and run pct.(I will give winstrol at least 5 weeks, so at best I will stop at week 10).

That's my 2c.

well said. Good advice.

[stacked566]

You think 350mg of test per week is enough? I am planning this cycle and pct around a trip, hence the shorter duration, plus long cycles kill my drive and intensity. Luckily my testes never shriveled during the last two cycles, hence the hcg omittance, I will however check on some proviron....

[hugovsilva]

Its my 3rd cycle. Only did eq/winny before and besides that i only cycle once a year. I think this dosages are enough for my goals (mostly cutting, keeping my weight). It is my first run with either test and tren, so i will take it easy. If I feel confortable with those dosages I will bump the test for 75md ed and de tren to 50md ed. I all depends how it goes. i can understand no hcg during cycle if you are going for 8 weeks and your testes never shriveled, but you will find it works wonders during pct to get you going again.