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**wes cst rydr** · 01-19-2007, 12:44 PM

hey beast need some advise.got some clen from lion for my good buddy.hes in his third week now taking 50mgs ben a night.he thinks the clen is no good because he started at 270 lbs went down to262 lbs and now is back up to 265 lbs. he is up to 8 pumps=160 mgs. he took tabs about five years ago on 2 off 2 and lost 35 lbs.can you give any advise so i can help him out?he is 30 yrs old if that matters.as far as i heard lions clen is great so i dont think that is the problem. all comments welocme!

**Bigmax** · 01-19-2007, 12:47 PM

What is he doing just taking clen ???...diet???..cardio???

**wes cst rydr** · 01-19-2007, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

What is he doing just taking clen???...diet???..cardio???

hey max.....hes 6'3" 25-26%bf. doing 30 mins cardio 4 times a week with lifting. he keeps saying last time he did hardly anything but lift.eating five times a day but i think i need to check him better on the diet.

**wes cst rydr** · 01-19-2007, 01:02 PM

i gotta go hit cardio ill be back in an hour.keep it comin thanks....

**skipp** · 01-19-2007, 01:04 PM

Clen is great stuff imo, but it won't beat a crap diet.

RA · 01-19-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by wes cst rydr

hey max.....hes 6'3" 25-26%bf. doing 30 mins cardio 4 times a week with lifting. he keeps saying last time he did hardly anything but lift.eating five times a day but i think i need to check him better on the diet.

Well he sounds lazy but he could up the dose. Ive went up to 200mcg with lions clen .

RA · 01-19-2007, 01:37 PM

Also the benedryl doesnt work for everyone. If it doesnt work for him have him try 2wks on and off.

**SMAN12b** · 01-19-2007, 01:38 PM

Clen will not do all the work it will just aid an already tight diet! Sounds like your friend needs to adjust the eating. 25% is pretty high BF

**wes cst rydr** · 01-19-2007, 03:41 PM

do you guys think his age might be a factor?i mean last time he was 25 now he is almost 31,and i know the older you get the harder to lose bf.have you guys had good results from lions clen . b t w i think he is being lazy also and not telling me (diet) he also smokes the ---onic!im gonna e mail this thread to him when we are done.

**Bigmax** · 01-19-2007, 03:59 PM

30yrs old...his metabolism may be a bit slower but his diet is prob. the deal here bro...Lets not talk recreational here bro but if he has that type of habit he's more than likely clost eating..

**wes cst rydr** · 01-19-2007, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

30yrs old...his metabolism may be a bit slower but his diet is prob. the deal here bro...Lets not talk recreational here bro but if he has that type of habit he's more than likely clost eating..

its kinda p!ssing me off, trying to help your friend and educate a little bit and they dont listen and probably lying about diet and training.all they want to do is blame the stuff you helped them get! the day we got the clen i made him try it and he was flying around the roof tops!