Improving vascularity

**SuperLift** · 01-23-2007, 12:03 AM

(tp)

What would be the best way to improve vascularity? Just up'ing the cardio and getting stricter on the diet to lower bf? Is that right?

**Schwarzenegger** · 01-23-2007, 12:48 AM

NO2,, or if u want the cheap way,, take L-arginine (main ingredient in NO2) combined with diet

i personally dont do cardio,, lol cuz i have super high metabolism

**IBdmfkr** · 01-23-2007, 01:12 AM

Yes low bodyfat helps but genetics plays a big role also.

There are other tricks with manipulating carbs etc but too complicated to explain in one post.

**anabolicpower** · 01-23-2007, 05:08 AM

You can also try niacin (vitamin b3). It gives insane pumps

**majorpecs** · 01-23-2007, 07:52 AM

Another good supplement to help with vascularity is vanadyl sulfate.

SVTMuscle* · 01-23-2007, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by anabolicpower

You can also try niacin (vitamin b3). It gives insane pumps

Really? never heard of that one.

**k bizzle** · 01-23-2007, 09:47 AM

eq did it for me

**anabolicpower** · 01-23-2007, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

Really? never heard of that one.

Yeah, use the search function of the forum.. there are many threads about it.

**SuperLift** · 01-23-2007, 10:35 AM

Thanks for the info, im going to look into those!

**IBdmfkr** · 01-23-2007, 11:50 AM

Yep used niacin for my contest but you have to already be pretty lean..

**Decoder** · 01-23-2007, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by SuperLift

(tp)

What would be the best way to improve vascularity? Just up'ing the cardio and getting stricter on the diet to lower bf? Is that right?

cardio and with out a doub by BNS's nitrix i got soo amazingly vascular on it, i worked better than winny.

**magic32** · 01-23-2007, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by majorpecs

Another good supplement to help with vascularity is vanadyl sulfate.

Yep, this is the original vasodilator!

Vanadyl is a keeper, and for pennies in comparison...120 tabs for about $4.99, if you shop around.

M.

**aadrenaline** · 01-23-2007, 12:56 PM

ill agree with the niacin. ive been taking 1g a day for the past 8 weeks..to battle cholesterol..and ive noticed new veins in my chest that go into my shoulder. and my existing veins are a little more noticable all day.

also since being on niacin my cholesterol has dropped from 245-215 as of 3 days ago

**aadrenaline** · 01-23-2007, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by magic32

Yep, this is the original vasodilator!

Vanadyl is a keeper, and for pennies in comparison...120 tabs for about $4.99, if you shop around.

M.

how much do you have to take? and aprox. how long does it take?

**magic32** · 01-23-2007, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by aadrenaline

how much do you have to take? and aprox. how long does it take?

As with most trace mineral very little. A serving is generally 7.5 - 10mgs.

M.

**aadrenaline** · 01-23-2007, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by magic32

As with most trace mineral very little. A serving is generally 7.5 - 10mgs.

M.

yea i noticed most products were 10mg but i wasnt sure if you were to take more than one a day. im gonna pick some up and try it out. thanks

**magic32** · 01-23-2007, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by aadrenaline

yea i noticed most products were 10mg but i wasnt sure if you were to take more than one a day. im gonna pick some up and try it out. thanks

Vanadyl is old school, but it works quite well.

Real Vanadyl is blue. So if it's tabs it should be very blue, if it's caps blue specks should permeate it.

Sportspharma used to make a great one.

M.

**GHO5T** · 01-23-2007, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by magic32

Vanadyl is old school, but it works quite well.

Real Vanadyl is blue. So if it's tabs it should be very blue, if it's caps blue specks should permeate it.

Sportspharma used to make a great one.

M.

Interesting read, im deff gunna give it a try, as ive never heard about it.

Can it be found and bought in a local pharmacy no questions asked, or would one need to have a prescription for it?

**kuad** · 01-23-2007, 01:40 PM

good to know!!! so... the final verdict for vascularity is........

**aadrenaline** · 01-23-2007, 01:43 PM

i think any supp store should carry somthing

**majorpecs** · 01-23-2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by GHO5T

Interesting read, im deff gunna give it a try, as ive never heard about it.

Can it be found and bought in a local pharmacy no questions asked, or would one need to have a prescription for it?

If they carry it you can buy it no problem, but I've never been able to find it in a store. I order all my vitamins online at www.puritanspride.com and they do carry it.

**magic32** · 01-23-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by GHO5T

Interesting read, im deff gunna give it a try, as ive never heard about it.

Can it be found and bought in a local pharmacy no questions asked, or would one need to have a prescription for it?

It's a trace mineral, and can purchased at virtually any health food store OTC.

M.

**pumpd4lif** · 01-23-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by SuperLift

(tp)

What would be the best way to improve vascularity? Just up'ing the cardio and getting stricter on the diet to lower bf? Is that right?

that is the best way i can think of

**magic32** · 01-23-2007, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by pumpd4lif

that is the best way i can think of

True.

Vasodilators don't increase permanently vascularity. As so named, they enlarge blood vessels for the shuttling of more blood into the worked muscle.

It'z like blowing air into your musclez, and thatz wat we call the pump!
- Arnold

M.

**aadrenaline** · 01-23-2007, 02:30 PM

yea so gnc and viatmin shoppe by me dont carry it im just gonna order online. for the $7-10 or w/e it is

**aadrenaline** · 01-23-2007, 02:31 PM

here $7.99 200 10mg pills

http://www.doctorstrust.com/item/DT2...FQ-9VAodz2UGVw

**SuperLift** · 01-23-2007, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by majorpecs

Another good supplement to help with vascularity is vanadyl sulfate.

Does anyone know how much you should take per day? The ones im looking at come in 10mg potency.

**anabolicpower** · 01-24-2007, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by magic32

True.

Vasodilators don't increase permanently vascularity. As so named, they enlarge blood vessels for the shuttling of more blood into the worked muscle.

It'z like blowing air into your musclez, and thatz wat we call the pump!
- Arnold

M.

Like blowing air you say ? I thought it was nitrogen
(sorry for the yoda style)

SVTMuscle* · 01-24-2007, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by SuperLift

Does anyone know how much you should take per day? The ones im looking at come in 10mg potency.

Usally 40mg-50mg a day is what I do start with 20mg work your way up

**pigrond** · 01-24-2007, 11:13 AM

so does this stuff work as well as no2

SVTMuscle* · 01-24-2007, 11:36 AM

I don't think so, but everyone make work with it differently

**roodogg** · 01-24-2007, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by GHO5T

Interesting read, im deff gunna give it a try, as ive never heard about it.

Can it be found and bought in a local pharmacy no questions asked, or would one need to have a prescription for it?

AGREED! sportspharma vanadyl was the bomb back in the day and then there was info that stated it was useless. I used to swear by it though

**kuad** · 01-25-2007, 09:17 AM

bumpy!

**SuperLift** · 01-25-2007, 10:16 AM

How much Niacin were you taking per day?

**kuad** · 01-26-2007, 09:04 AM

so does it work or not?

**magic32** · 01-26-2007, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by anabolicpower

Like blowing air you say ? I thought it was nitrogen
(sorry for the yoda style)

Firstly, Arnold was making a simile when he said "like...air".
Secondly, nitrogen is a gas, and gas is air!

Originally Posted by roodogg
AGREED! sportspharma vanadyl was the bomb back in the day and then there was info that stated it was useless. I used to swear by it though

Exactly why you can't believe everything your read in mags.

Originally Posted by kuad
so does it work or not?

How many members do you need to authenticate this?
It fulfills its bodybuilding purpose, which is not enhanced overall vascularity, but instead the augmented shuttling of nourishing blood (vits, mins, and amino acids) into working muscles resulting in the pump.

Originally Posted by SuperLift
Does anyone know how much you should take per day? The ones im looking at come in 10mg potency.

One serving of 7.5 - 10mgs, 20 to 30 minutes prior to lifting. My dosage never increased, because it didn't need to. As with most trace minerals, developing tolerance is not an issue.

Good info and sources:
http://search.bodybuilding.com/searc...restrict=store

M.

**kuad** · 01-26-2007, 01:30 PM

just one. you.

**SNUKA** · 01-26-2007, 01:42 PM

arginine has worked really well for me especially the ethyl ester version. i buy the powder separate and mix it with my shakes. i have also taking no-explode during pct and that has worked great too. but id rather just buy the powder its alot cheaper

**Fastcav** · 01-26-2007, 03:07 PM

Good read, im going to order some and give it a try myself.

**magic32** · 01-30-2007, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by SNUKA

arginine has worked really well for me especially the ethyl ester version. i buy the powder separate and mix it with my shakes. i have also taking no-explode during pct and that has worked great too. but id rather just buy the powder its alot cheaper

Yeah, many people swear the dynamic duo of Arginine and Ornithine for the promotion of wound healing, muscle recovery, and GH release.

Ornithine actually metabolizes to Arginine in the body. If taken in doses larger than those normally obtained from your diet, or if taken on an empty stomach, these amino acids purportedly reduce Hypertension because Arginine is required for the body to synthesize nitric oxide, which enables the arterial system to retain its youthful elasticity. This works because the arterial system slightly expands and contracts with each heartbeat, so it could be considered an anti-aging amino.

I also knew a monster, who love Inositol, but that’s another story.

M.