Tweaked first cycle

[cheatinistryin]

sorry to be repetitive on the postings but i want to get it right. i added tbol and PCT is per a roberts. thanks again.

wk 1-12 Test E 500mg
wk 8-12 Tbol 20mg/ed
wk 1-12 Arimidex .5mg/ed

PCT
wk 13-18 Nolva 20mg/ed
wk 13-17 Aromasin 20mg/ed
wk 13-15 HCG 500iU
wk 13-15 Vit E 1000iU/ed

[cheatinistryin]

come on fellas, i need a little feedback. My PCT will actually start 7 days after the last injection.

anthony roberts, i'm the rugby guy you said you may be able to help. i don't have pm or email privileges just yet and i was curious as to what you thought about this cycle. thanks.

[theboss]

wow..you waited a whole 14min...you have some real patience.

[cheatinistryin]

there's 700 people on AR right now. instant gratification bro. by the way what's your stance on the cycle mentioned above.

[theboss]

i dont know enough about Tbol...or running it at the end.....but i think it would be fine.....but your PCT is wrong...more research...especially on when to start Nolvadex

[theboss]

there's 700 people on AR right now. instant gratification bro. by the way what's your stance on the cycle mentioned above.

also...this statement proves that you arent willing to work for gains.....you are looking for a miracle drug....you arent ready...you can gain more naturally and do it with diet and hard work.....AAS is for guys you get them to the next level...past a sticking point......not as a start.

[MartyMcFly]

sorry to be repetitive on the postings but i want to get it right. i added tbol and PCT is per a roberts. thanks again.

wk 1-12 Test E 500mg
wk 8-12 Tbol 20mg/ed
wk 1-12 Arimidex .5mg/ed

PCT
wk 13-18 Nolva 20mg/ed
wk 13-17 Aromasin 20mg/ed
wk 13-15 HCG 500iU
wk 13-15 Vit E 1000iU/ed

I would do

wk 1-12 Test E 500mg
wk 8-14 Tbol 40mg/ed 40mg min
wk 1-14 Arimidex .25mg/ed

PCT
After last tbol pill:
2 weeks nolva 40 mg aromasin 20mg then 2 weeks nolva 20mg aromasin 20mg
Vit E 1000iU/ed[/QUOTE]

I don't know much about vit e or aromasin but if 20 is good then run it. No need for HCG.

[theboss]

I would do

wk 1-12 Test E 500mg
wk 8-14 Tbol 40mg/ed 40mg min
wk 1-14 Arimidex .25mg/ed

PCT
After last tbol pill:
2 weeks nolva 40 mg aromasin 20mg then 20 weeks nolva 20 aromasin 20
Vit E 1000iU/ed

I don't know much about vit e or aromasin but if 20 is good then run it. No need for HCG.[/QUOTE]

just wondering why you would run Tbol 2 weeks longer then the Test ?
you are saying start PCT day after Tbol is done right...not another 2 weeks ?

[cheatinistryin]

boss,
more than willing to put in the work. don't pigeonhole me into some category of people looking for a miracle drug--especially when you don't know the first thing about me. i've lifted for strength and mass for the past 10 years. i'm a hard gainer. true you can gain naturally with diet and hard work--but you gain even more with diet, hard work, and aas.

the PCT that needs work is directly from anthony roberts' post. he doesn't suggest waiting 14 days for nolva is correct.

[MartyMcFly]

I don't know much about vit e or aromasin but if 20 is good then run it. No need for HCG.

just wondering why you would run Tbol 2 weeks longer then the Test ?
you are saying start PCT day after Tbol is done right...not another 2 weeks ?[/QUOTE]

Tbol has a short half life and pct can be done day after last pill. Running it two more weeks would ensure the test is out of system.

[cheatinistryin]

Marty,

On the PCT part, you have "20 weeks nolva 20 aromasin 20
Vit E 1000iU/ed". Is it supposed to be 2 weeks or 20 weeks?

[MartyMcFly]

boss,
more than willing to put in the work. don't pigeonhole me into some category of people looking for a miracle drug--especially when you don't know the first thing about me. i've lifted for strength and mass for the past 10 years. i'm a hard gainer. true you can gain naturally with diet and hard work--but you gain even more with diet, hard work, and aas.

the PCT that needs work is directly from anthony roberts' post. he doesn't suggest waiting 14 days for nolva is correct.

I still wouldn't do hcg. The cycle isn't strong enough. If you are dead set on it run it during last few weeks of cycle.

[theboss]

just wondering why you would run Tbol 2 weeks longer then the Test ?
you are saying start PCT day after Tbol is done right...not another 2 weeks ?

Tbol has a short half life and pct can be done day after last pill. Running it two more weeks would ensure the test is out of system.[/QUOTE]

thats what i thought....thanks

[MartyMcFly]

Marty,

On the PCT part, you have "20 weeks nolva 20 aromasin 20
Vit E 1000iU/ed". Is it supposed to be 2 weeks or 20 weeks?

Yes it is 2 weeks. I will edit that now.


Nolva 40,40,20,20

Aromasin I do not know much about so can't give advise. I am running clomid but have seen where people have do aromasin and it is good for pct but not sure about how to run it.

[MartyMcFly]

the boss...

What is up with your quoting? Your last post had me quoting you instead of what I said.

[cheatinistryin]

thanks for the advice marty. aromasin @ 20 mg/ed is sufficient for this cycle. it's an aromatase inactivator (under roberts' PCT post.)

[theboss]

the boss...

What is up with your quoting? Your last post had me quoting you instead of what I said.

beats the crap out of me what happened there...i just hit the quote button