Beginner

**jets1060** · 01-23-2007, 04:10 PM

I am 18 years old and am looking to start on my first cycle I have worked out hard for 2 years now and am ready to start, I only want orals what would be a good beginning stack, I have the size but am looking to get cut up??

Height- 6' 1"
Weight- 225
Age-18

**king6** · 01-23-2007, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by jets1060

I am 18 years old and am looking to start on my first cycle I have worked out hard for 2 years now and am ready to start, I only want orals what would be a good beginning stack, I have the size but am looking to get cut up??

Height- 6' 1"
Weight- 225
Age-18

Oh lord.

**king6** · 01-23-2007, 04:13 PM

1. Too young
2. Oral only cycles are not the best way to go
3. Research, research, research

**Xtralarg** · 01-23-2007, 04:14 PM

You are way too young to be messing with AAS. Wait at least another 5 years. If you dont then I gurantee you will regret it in later life.

**mkrulic** · 01-23-2007, 04:14 PM

get cut thru diet. cant be done thru steroids . your on a mild cycle right now. take steroids and you will never get that back.
from 18 to 19 I saw my bench go from 315 to 405. your hormone level right now should not be tampered w/

**jets1060** · 01-23-2007, 04:23 PM

Well I am getting ready to turn 19, I have been researching for about a year now and want to start on a cycle but wanted advice? I can get pretty much anything but only wanted to get orals because they are much easier to use, but at the same time I wasnt going to use too much becasue it will put to much stress on my liver! One of my friends started on a liquid form of deca and he got a severe infection where he was taking it, so I am scared of the liquid!

**mkrulic** · 01-23-2007, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by jets1060

Well I am getting ready to turn 19, I have been researching for about a year now and want to start on a cycle but wanted advice? I can get pretty much anything but only wanted to get orals because they are much easier to use, but at the same time I wasnt going to use too much becasue it will put to much stress on my liver! One of my friends started on a liquid form of deca and he got a severe infection where he was taking it, so I am scared of the liquid!

you got advice. I think what you wanted was someone to agree and tell you it was ok to do steroids at your age and you wont find that here.
your goals can be attained very easily w/o steriods . why subject your self to sides if not necessary?

**king6** · 01-23-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by jets1060

Well I am getting ready to turn 19, I have been researching for about a year now and want to start on a cycle but wanted advice? I can get pretty much anything but only wanted to get orals because they are much easier to use, but at the same time I wasnt going to use too much becasue it will put to much stress on my liver! One of my friends started on a liquid form of deca and he got a severe infection where he was taking it, so I am scared of the liquid!

WTF?! A liquid form of deca ?! Dude no such thing. If they could make injectables into oral form, what would be the point of injecting. You need to do your research more.

**mkrulic** · 01-23-2007, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by king6

WTF?! A liquid form of deca?! Dude no such thing. If they could make injectables into oral form, what would be the point of injecting. You need to do your research more.

I think he is saying that the liquid form is injectable. as opposed to injecting tablets I guess

**king6** · 01-23-2007, 04:36 PM

If I were to do an oral only steroid it would be var. But your setting yourself up for failure. You wont gain much from the var, but it is the safest oral out there.

**jets1060** · 01-23-2007, 04:41 PM

yea i was thinking about var,win and nolva

**SMAN12b** · 01-23-2007, 04:41 PM

Weeks 1-12 Foodabol
Weeks 1-10 cardioenanthate
Weeks 1-52 dietbolics

**mkrulic** · 01-23-2007, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by king6

If I were to do an oral only steroid it would be var. But your setting yourself up for failure. You wont gain much from the var, but it is the safest oral out there.

did you notice his age? he will get more out of the steroids his body is produciong naturally then out of the var you suggested.

**king6** · 01-23-2007, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

did you notice his age? he will get more out of the steroids his body is produciong naturally then out of the var you suggested.

Yes, I said if I were to do an oral only. I am 24. He should not do any AAS yet.

**jets1060** · 01-23-2007, 04:47 PM

What do you think of this supplement stack, which are some other stuff I could add to help with cutting?

Daily:

Muscle Milk
Thermo Gain
Multi-Vitamin

**mkrulic** · 01-23-2007, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by king6

Yes, I said if I were to do an oral only. I am 24. He should not do any AAS yet.

so you were giving advice to yourself? start your own thread for that

**king6** · 01-23-2007, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

so you were giving advice to yourself? start your own thread for that

I'm not, I'm giving advice to him from my point of view. He is very young for AAS and want to do an oral only. I said that I would do a var only cycle, which would mean for him that when he is old enough, the only oral cycle he should consider is a var only cycle. Not an oral stack. The more orals you stack the more stress you put on your liver.

Like everyone says, food is the best option for you. Wait until a minimun of 21, 24 or 25 is better. Till then just keep training, so when you are ready you will have a good lead.

**king6** · 01-23-2007, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by jets1060

What do you think of this supplement stack, which are some other stuff I could add to help with cutting?

Daily:

Muscle Milk
Thermo Gain
Multi-Vitamin

Check out the diet forum, there is a sticky on how to cut. Diet and cardio are the key ingredients for cutting. A Multi V is always good, muscle milk is a good source of protein, but most of your protein should come from food. And I am not sure what Thermo gain is.

**longhorn814** · 01-23-2007, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by jets1060

Well I am getting ready to turn 19, I have been researching for about a year now and want to start on a cycle but wanted advice? I can get pretty much anything but only wanted to get orals because they are much easier to use, but at the same time I wasnt going to use too much becasue it will put to much stress on my liver! One of my friends started on a liquid form of deca and he got a severe infection where he was taking it, so I am scared of the liquid!

stressing your liver is one of the last things you should be worried about. Your still maturing! Your endocrine system isnt fully developed yet and wont be til your mid 20's. why do you want to take the chance of messing your body up permanently in the future?? How would you like to be 30 and have erectile dysfunction? That would suck and its entirely possibly, especially if you start at such a young age. Steroids arent a magic pill, they are something to be considered after many years of training and working on your diet to know what works best for you and achieve your desired results. I GUARANTEE you dont know how to eat to achieve your goals. After all, your body is still developing and what your body needs to grow today, will be different in a couple years. All you need is food, food, and food to grow at your age. Throw in a good protein supplement and you'll be well on your way. I know this isnt what you want to hear, but its the truth!!

**GHO5T** · 01-23-2007, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by jets1060

I am 18 years old and am looking to start on my first cycle I have worked out hard for 2 years now and am ready to start, I only want orals what would be a good beginning stack, I have the size but am looking to get cut up??

Height- 6' 1"
Weight- 225
Age-18

You shouldnt venture into AAS use as of yet. Like many of the bros have said. You should explore all other means of gaining muscle mass or cutting before thinking about AAS use.

**GHO5T** · 01-23-2007, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

get cut thru diet. cant be done thru steroids . your on a mild cycle right now. take steroids and you will never get that back.
from 18 to 19 I saw my bench go from 315 to 405. your hormone level right now should not be tampered w/

impressive stats bro, what were your stats then? what are they now? just curious

**jets1060** · 01-25-2007, 05:07 PM

tbol 10mg

100 caps for $150?

Good Price?

**duramaxedge** · 01-25-2007, 05:11 PM

jets edit your post.. we do not discuss prices on here

fyi your body will grow naturally at your age with your test levels. If you were to take 'steroids ' you will affect your bodys natural growth possibly PERMANENTLY .. its not worth the chances man.. wait

**MartyMcFly** · 01-25-2007, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by jets1060

Well I am getting ready to turn 19, I have been researching for about a year now and want to start on a cycle but wanted advice? I can get pretty much anything but only wanted to get orals because they are much easier to use, but at the same time I wasnt going to use too much becasue it will put to much stress on my liver! One of my friends started on a liquid form of deca and he got a severe infection where he was taking it, so I am scared of the liquid!

That is more likely than not his own fault.