anadrol and dianabol cycle

**squatking_08** · 01-25-2007, 12:51 PM

first off i wanna say i am not considering this cycle...just curious to hear about it.wat do yall think the affects/gains/etc of an oral cycle of
week1-4:androl 50 mg ed
week1-6:dianabol 30 mg ed;letro 2.5 mg ed
nolvadex for pct
also when would you start the pct?
what doses would be better

**mkrulic** · 01-25-2007, 12:55 PM

every cycle needs test. I would never do two orals. I bet the lower back pumps from this would be way too much.

**mkrulic** · 01-25-2007, 12:56 PM

If you like squat then you might want to avoid dbol. back pumps

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-25-2007, 01:21 PM

depends what your goals are, if it is to quickly put on sloppy size and good strength gains then it is good, but I feel there are better options out there.

**squatking_08** · 01-25-2007, 01:24 PM

i am already on a "real" cycle...if u will...but i was just curious.thanx for the input guys...hey pb...what would one do to maybe fix this...what about a 6 week cycle of dianabol at 50 mg a day...i hear alot about d-bol only cycles as both good and bad.im thinking of trying it later to add size.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-25-2007, 01:33 PM

well it will add size and you will keep some (except the water) with correct use of AIs and PCT. Might find your libido falls through the floor though

. Maybe add some proviron see if that helps libido issues. Personally I would stick in some test because I fookin love the stuff but hey whatever floats your boat man...

**mkrulic** · 01-25-2007, 01:34 PM

at a min do a hrt dose

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-25-2007, 01:38 PM

"If you like squat then you might want to avoid dbol. back pumps"
"every cycle needs test"

mkulic aka (King Parrot)

**BigLittleTim** · 01-25-2007, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by squatking_08

first off i wanna say i am not considering this cycle...just curious to hear about it.wat do yall think the affects/gains/etc of an oral cycle of
week1-4:androl 50 mg ed
week1-6:dianabol 30 mg ed;letro 2.5 mg ed
nolvadex for pct
also when would you start the pct?
what doses would be better

I'm a Rugby player and EVEN I wouldn't do a cycle like this.

Use Anadrol-50 for the first four weeks to kick-start your gains, and then do a normal, garden-variety Test-Cyp. & Deca inject. cycle for ten/twelve weeks... don't be afraid of the needle... there's a good fella.

-BigLittleTim

**BigLittleTim** · 01-25-2007, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

depends what your goals are, if it is to quickly put on sloppy size and good strength gains then it is good, but I feel there are better options out there.

What's wrong with sloppy size?!

-BLTim

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-25-2007, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by BigLittleTim

What's wrong with sloppy size?!

-BLTim

It looks bad Cosmetic/bbing wise...

Athletically makes you slower....Unless you don't need speed....Which is rare in most sports.

**fLgAtOr** · 01-25-2007, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by squatking_08

first off i wanna say i am not considering this cycle...just curious to hear about it.wat do yall think the affects/gains/etc of an oral cycle of
week1-4:androl 50 mg ed
week1-6:dianabol 30 mg ed;letro 2.5 mg ed
nolvadex for pct
also when would you start the pct?
what doses would be better

Why the curiousity, out of curiousity?

Id run drol by itself or with var or something....But I can't see these two being good together...

**Snrf** · 01-25-2007, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

Why the curiousity, out of curiousity?

Id run drol by itself or with var or something....But I can't see these two being good together...

Spound posted something on using these together, i don't have any experience with it but the threads right here

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=259761

sounds interesting to me...

**fLgAtOr** · 01-25-2007, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

Spound posted something on using these together, i don't have any experience with it but the threads right here

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=259761

sounds interesting to me...

Oooh yeah...I do remember that. Hmm...

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-25-2007, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by BigLittleTim

What's wrong with sloppy size?!

-BLTim

nothing if your goal is to be big and strong (rugby, powerlifting ect). I guess if someone were a hard gainer and needed to beef up for one of these sports then the cycle would be good, but then adding test would be even better

**testosterona** · 01-25-2007, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

"If you like squat then you might want to avoid dbol. back pumps"
"every cycle needs test"

mkulic aka (King Parrot)

lol, great minds think alike HM

**mkrulic** · 01-25-2007, 08:14 PM

"If you like squat then you might want to avoid dbol. back pumps"
"every cycle needs test"
I'd rather be a parrot than a monkey

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-25-2007, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

"If you like squat then you might want to avoid dbol. back pumps"
"every cycle needs test"
I'd rather be a parrot than a monkey

**G-Force** · 01-26-2007, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

"If you like squat then you might want to avoid dbol. back pumps"
"every cycle needs test"
I'd rather be a parrot than a monkey

that is not a must it is a matter of opinion and varies from person to person

**Haro3** · 01-26-2007, 08:38 AM

lol this thread is a parrots dream!

heres my advice.
1. have you ran either of them before? and do you know how they affect you?
2. i ran dbol at 50mg ed for 6 weeks it elevated my liver out of range but only by two points BUT its still elevated nonetheless so i dont think i would have wanted to add another toxic compound in...but you might be able to handle it.
3. if your going to do it get blood work done.
4. most likely put on alot of strength, ton of bloat, but dont listen to the "oral cycles you lose everything" you dont HAVE to have test but it does have its place. if you incist on oral only cycle depending on ur goals i might research other compounds. or just run one or the other alone....

this is providing you dont have experience with them like i said you might be 100% fine taking two toxic orals. but i know i would have some issues..

**briancb1** · 01-26-2007, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

"If you like squat then you might want to avoid dbol. back pumps"
"every cycle needs test"

mkulic aka (King Parrot)

Its true to some extent. I had to drop my stupid phera-plex crap because the back pumps were so intolerable, I could NOT deadlift or squat to save my life. Guys in the gym though I seriously injured myself - down on the floor rolling in the fetal position to try to relieve the pain (I couldn't stand up strait for a good 3-4 minutes).

**BigLittleTim** · 01-26-2007, 12:16 PM

Qu'est que c'est "Back pumps"?

Do you guys actually mean that some steroids give you such a pump on squats that you're in physical pain from the PUMP?

I don't know if I should feel lucky... or envious.

**mkrulic** · 01-26-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

that is not a must it is a matter of opinion and varies from person to person

use your search button and find how many people have suffered from impotence from a cycle w/o test. then tell them thats theyre opinion.

**Snrf** · 01-26-2007, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

use your search button and find how many people have suffered from impotence from a cycle w/o test. then tell them thats theyre opinion.

do a search and find how many people get no side effects from not running test. no impotence, no libido issues....

if it works for them, it might work for others dontcha think?

**mkrulic** · 01-26-2007, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

do a search and find how many people get no side effects from not running test. no impotence, no libido issues....

if it works for them, it might work for others dontcha think?

it either will or it will not. If it does not leave you impotent then what did you save? the cost of the test. what advantage did you get by not taking test? If it leaves you impotent then what did you loose?
Its all a question of risk vs. return. risk impotence so you can save money on the run. bad call imo.

**Snrf** · 01-26-2007, 02:52 PM

yeah i wouldnt do it, im just saying there are plenty who do. I know a bloke who ran tren and winny for 12 weeks and didn't have any libido issues. recovery was no harder than if he'd run test because he'd still have been just as suppressed had he run test...

like i said, i personally wouldnt do it, except maybe for an oral cycle like dbol/var which i'm considering, but i'd take proviron for that to counter any issues still

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-26-2007, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

it either will or it will not. If it does not leave you impotent then what did you save? the cost of the test. what advantage did you get by not taking test? If it leaves you impotent then what did you loose?
Its all a question of risk vs. return. risk impotence so you can save money on the run. bad call imo.

A Dbol cycle for 6 weeks will be much easier on your libido than test...Let me explain, Dbol Suppressive compound not very hard on the HPTA. Test while on ...Oh look at me I'm a walking tripod....But once you come off your shutdown , now thats a different story.....

mkrulic.......aka, (Leader of the Parrot Tribe)

**mkrulic** · 01-26-2007, 03:37 PM

every cycle needs test

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-26-2007, 03:38 PM

^ lol

I rest my case.

If somthing doesn't fit to my goals I won't use it. Some Love test while some can't handle the sides. So if they don't want to use it does that mean they can't cycle?....To you it does lol.

**mkrulic** · 01-26-2007, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

^ lol

I rest my case.

If somthing doesn't fit to my goals I won't use it. Some Love test while some can't handle the sides. So if they don't want to use it does that mean they can't cycle?....To you it does lol.

can you handle an hrt dose.

**Snrf** · 01-26-2007, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

every cycle needs test

You know what that is? Its a king parrot

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-26-2007, 03:45 PM

LMFAO!

SOmehow Mkrulic is on my avy pic aswell, spreading his wisdom that was passed down from the parrots before him.

**Snrf** · 01-26-2007, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

LMFAO!

SOmehow Mkrulic is on my avy pic aswell, spreading his wisdom that was passed down from the parrots before him.

I actually remembered I saw king parrots in Australia, so I thought a pic of one would be fitting

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-26-2007, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

can you handle an hrt dose.

I like test. But I've ran cycles without test with less sides than while on test.

**mkrulic** · 01-26-2007, 03:48 PM

if its repeated there must be a reason. how many threads have been started that say something like im haveing impotence problems w/ my blank(any hormone other than test) only cycle. all they needed was a friend who was a parrot.

**mkrulic** · 01-26-2007, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

I like test. But I've ran cycles without test with less sides than while on test.

your the minority. the way you state it in threads you'd think you were the majority. this is dangerous since most will respond negatively to cycles w/o test.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-26-2007, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

if its repeated there must be a reason. how many threads have been started that say something like im haveing impotence problems w/ my blank(any hormone other than test) only cycle. all they needed was a friend who was a parrot.

How many don't have problems? Proviron....Hell pop a viagra if you can't get it up lol. I've heard many post test cycle who can't get it up from being shutdonw and having a hard time getting there hormones back up......

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-26-2007, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

your the minority. the way you state it in threads you'd think you were the majority. this is dangerous since most will respond negatively to cycles w/o test.

Oh jesus , I've endangered ppls lives!

Mkrulic , I can't understand what your saying......I just hear "SQAUWK SQUAWK"

I've slapped you around in the past about test doesnt have to be higher than the other compounds you run.....Ur not even worth argueing with, you have one thick parrot skull.

**mkrulic** · 01-26-2007, 03:54 PM

test is for men. the rest of you can do your non-test cycles. leave the test to us heavy hitters who dont wear skirts.

**mkrulic** · 01-26-2007, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Oh jesus , I've endangered ppls lives!

Mkrulic , I can't understand what your saying......I just hear "SQAUWK SQUAWK"

I've slapped you around in the past about test doesnt have to be higher than the other compounds you run.....Ur not even worth argueing with, you have one thick parrot skull.

isnt it time you get your estrogen a$$ back on the corner and make daddy some money?

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