--Considered Natural?--

**Springbok_Powered** · 01-25-2007, 10:57 PM

This is going to be a bit of a controversial question,

I have never taken AAS but take clen , DNP , and T3 for cutting, would i still be considered a natural BB?

***Narkissos*** · 01-25-2007, 11:11 PM

^^No.

**HORSE~** · 01-25-2007, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

^^No.

LOL WRONG!!!!If you test clean you are clean.......

WTF are steroid 's anyway????

***Narkissos*** · 01-25-2007, 11:35 PM

^^

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-26-2007, 12:17 AM

Why are you taking Clen , DNP and T3? Whats your body fat %?
Looks kinda high from your pic for someone who's used that.

***Narkissos*** · 01-26-2007, 12:26 AM

^^I don't think he has

**outlawtas** · 01-26-2007, 01:18 AM

are you asking if you'll test postive for banned substances?

Natural depends on 2 things, what you think and what the organization you deal with thinks. IMO anyone who consumes something that you can't go out an "catch" if you were a hunter isn't 100% natural. Protein shakes are one thing, creatine is a step higher and steroids are another step (albeit a big one).

**Springbok_Powered** · 01-26-2007, 03:39 AM

My BF is 17%.

Now i know taking these things is stepping over the line, and i'm trying to be "as natural as possible", so I use the lowest recommended dosages. 200mg DNP , 20mcg Clen and 25mcg T3.

I am a classic endo and over the last 4 months have changed my diet, started intense 30 min cardio 6 days a week and dropped from 24% BF. And I only started started the DNP/Clen/T3 stack 6 days ago. My goal is to get to 10% BF.

I have started a log of the results at: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=280652

I have no intentions of doing more cutting cycles, once I'm at the level I can maintain (pushing to get to 15% BF on the stack) then I can continue without them. A contributing factor to me taking these is the high loss of FFM while trying to loose 14%+ BF naturally.

I do intend to compete one day, but I need to put on at least 20lbs of FFM.

To answer outlaws question, I have stayed off AAS for the most obvious reason, too young, and also to maintain the natural thing. My perspective on the cutting aids is i'm not using them anywhere near comp time, and this one low dose cycle compared to consuming copious amounts of over the counter thermo's right through the competition.

This stack is the first and last, I plan to walk into any tested comp and think to myself, "Self, At least I am more natural than some of these other guys who continue to take banned substances" and I've spoken to a couple of competitors at the ANB comps and it's scary how many of them use and get away with it. The irony that is that i take them too but by the time i go to compete it could be years away.

Please throw in your two cents for further consideration.