Prop PAIN....what is it

[JMC]

I have heard alot of people mention pain from test prop...what is this caused by?

[davedizzle]

I think it is the Benzyl Alcohol used in it. Above 5% is usually painfull.

[JMC]

Painful while injecting? or painful after injection

[briancb1]

Painful while injecting? or painful after injection

After. If you are used to jabbing then you've paid your dues as far as a virgin muscle is concerned.

[shortie]

Painful after injecting, shot may be almost entirely painless, only to have intense pain settle in shortly after, and can last for days. To my understanding it has mostly to do with the BA/BB ratio-

[ecivon]

Some guys complain that the pain is so severe it brings them to their knees, or that they can't walk. Others say it isn't too bad and they can tolerate it. It typically takes a few days for the pain to clear up, but it can be bad. It is best to inject ed, as opposed to eod and to include as many different sites as possible to let the pain subside and muscles time to chill out. I would suggest at least 6 different rotation sites. Thereby giving almost a week before injecting the same muscles the next time around. It can hurt, but nothing to whine about.

[kostakv]

Im Doing Test Prop Right Now (day 10) Not That Bad Just A Sore The Next Day....some Are Worse Than Others..nothing To Freak Out About

[Wizeguy]

Im Doing Test Prop Right Now (day 10) Not That Bad Just A Sore The Next Day....some Are Worse Than Others..nothing To Freak Out About

Same here, not too bad. It feels like a bad bruise and some tightness.

[*Narkissos*]

I have heard alot of people mention pain from test prop...what is this caused by?

The propionate (&phenylprionate) ester(s) is generally an irritant.

Some claim the BA is the culprit.. But prop brews hurt even @ 1% BA.

Incidentally i know of early homebrewers who've made acetate brews with 10% BA with no pain.

AND Benzyl alcohol is actually a local anesthetic. So post-injection pain cannot be associated with it:

Reference: Macht DI. A pharmacological and therapeutic study of benzyl alcohol as a local anesthetic for skin surgery. J Pharmacol Exp Ther 1918;11:263–79.





-Narkissos

[guest589745]

Good info. I am always in prop pain.

[odix]

for me it hurts the 2nd day after injection the worst, but ever since i started in my thighs, after virgin muscle injects, it doesnt hurt.

[Stackertoo]

I did mine at 2% BA and it is still the worst as far as site pain. It's just the Prop itself.

The propionate (&phenylprionate) ester(s) is generally an irritant.

Some claim the BA is the culprit.. But prop brews hurt even @ 1% BA.

Incidentally i know of early homebrewers who've made acetate brews with 10% BA with no pain.

AND Benzyl alcohol is actually a local anesthetic. So post-injection pain cannot be associated with it:

Reference: Macht DI. A pharmacological and therapeutic study of benzyl alcohol as a local anesthetic for skin surgery. J Pharmacol Exp Ther 1918;11:263–79.





-Narkissos

[GHO5T]

Prop pain can be caused by many factors. Dosage you inject, injection technique, the make up of the compound, the source in which you obtained your prop, etc...

However IMO prop pain is over exaggerated, its not to the point where you need crutches or a wheel chair in order to get from point A to point B.

IMO prop pain again is over exaggerated and parroted by alot of bros who havent even used the compound, but say its a crippling pain, and that they couldnt even walk the next day.

It does have a slight pain, sting to it after injection, but nothing that one cant handle.

[Luuke]

Well I have Pharm grade prop and that mother hurts! Last time I hit my quad my leg and knee were swollen for a week. I have a high pain tolerance but it felt like someone smashed my femur with a sledgehammer. Now I'm using grape seed oil and it cut down the pain considerablely

[G-1000]

The pain is from the hormone. The other facters are the oil bb and ba. Some people react to ba and get pain from that. But most it comes from the oil. If the prop is made with a thin oil it's going to be much more painfull.

[Snrf]

does eo cut down on prop pain?

[Bigmax]

^^^yes.

[G-1000]

does eo cut down on prop pain?

I find eo to make gear more painfull. But the could just be me. But i dont think so.

I mad a sust blend it was test-p 75mg test-pp 75mg and test-iso 100mg. I used 2%ba 15%bb and 50/50 oil eo. This shit was so painfull it made andropen a walk in the park.

[Bigmax]

It all individual...Ive taken up to 3 cc's of prop made with Eo in one injection site with no discomfort whatsoever...

[*Narkissos*]

I did mine at 2% BA and it is still the worst as far as site pain. It's just the Prop itself.

Ditto.

Prop pain can be caused by many factors. Dosage you inject, injection technique, the make up of the compound, the source in which you obtained your prop, etc...

However IMO prop pain is over exaggerated, its not to the point where you need crutches or a wheel chair in order to get from point A to point B.

IMO prop pain again is over exaggerated and parroted by alot of bros who havent even used the compound, but say its a crippling pain, and that they couldnt even walk the next day.

It does have a slight pain, sting to it after injection, but nothing that one cant handle.

That's a blanket statement..

Just because you dont' experience much pain doesn't discount others' experiences.

Some people are straight up allergic to the ester.

My best friend got sterile abscesses in response to its administration..each time he shot it.

Gear was clean... The ester however provoked a systemic response probably histamine-related.

Me personally... i can't use it. I swell at the injection spot..straight down the limb.

The pain is from the hormone. The other facters are the oil bb and ba. Some people react to ba and get pain from that. But most it comes from the oil. If the prop is made with a thin oil it's going to be much more painfull.

The oil choice can exacerbate the pain factor as well.

I believe this is where the grade of the carrier comes into question.

non-USP grade ingredients (i believe) contain some fatty acid traces which make it more painful.

-N

[Ironarms]

im taking 75 mg prop ed and soemtimes i liek to run my syringe under hot water for a few seconds and ihave never felt any pain with this...only time i feel pain is if i shoot too much into 1 muscle...now i have learned the my rear delts can only handle half cc and my shoulders can only handle cc and a half...i think sometimes peopel shoot too much in 1 area and that causes pain as well

[duramaxedge]

prop pain usually hits me a day or two after.. and is sore for a couple days.. I have some (mexico brand) prop and it HURTS like a Biatch!