how to keep from shutting yourself down on year-round test use

[ascendant]

just thinking of doing TRT levels of test (100-125mg/week) year round between cycles along with HGH for numerous reasons. anyway, i know you're supposed to take HCG every so often to keep from shutting yourself down. however, the HCG is supposed to be combined with an anti-estrogen from what i read about it's effects on ls/lh(?).

so, since i don't think it's a good idea to be taking an anti-estrogen year-round along with test and HGH, i'd like to know how long should the anti-estrogen be taken after the HCG shots, how often should you use the HCG, and at what doses? also, if you take an anti-estrogen during cycles, would there still be a need to use an anti-estrogen regularly during TRT doses between the cycles?

[Wizeguy]

Sorry I cant help you, But I'd also like to hear more about this from a credible member.

[Ufa]

Take as much arimidex as you need to keep your E-2 around 20. I have
taken it over a year and don't notice any sides. I don't do HCG so I have
no experience in that area.

[ascendant]

Take as much arimidex as you need to keep your E-2 around 20. I have
taken it over a year and don't notice any sides. I don't do HCG so I have
no experience in that area.

i know this might be a stupid question, but what's E-2? i'm assuming it's something to do with estrogen levels?

as far as not using HCG, if you've taken arimidex for over a year now, i'm assuming you take test year round? if that's right, then what do you do to keep from shutting yourself down?

[Kale]

OK so I do HRT between cycles at 100mg a week. I run Adex at 0.25mg EOD as I want my Estrogen kept low. It runs at about 12 at the moment which is the low end of the range. I do that on both HRT and cycles. I run HCG when I feel my balls need a bit of plumping up. I am doing a HCG course right now. I have 5000 IU and I run that at 250IU EOD until its finished. The balls come back nicely. I do that about three times a year

[IBdmfkr]

I think this question is better suited for a doctor.

Find a good sports doctor that has knowledge in endocrinology.
They should answer all your questions.

[Ufa]

There are 3 types of estrogen; E-2 is the one men should be concerned
with. I avoid being shut down by doing a lot of different aas at the same
time with low to medium dosages. I think that the arimidex and GH are
the main helpers. When I did not take arimidex --now (1mg) EOD. Things
would shrink up big time. I had high estrogen levels. It may have been
the estrogen that was causing problems. Sure the boys are smaller
but fine for sex. When I totally come off everything. The boys grow
so freakin big I wish they were smaller. Just can't understand why so
many are hung up on big balls. When you don't use them they will
get smaller. I think the GH healed all my body parts that produce
test because after 3 months my natural test levels were up 300 points
to about 600. If I could get it up annother 100 points and keep it there
I would most likely stop all aas use. Gets to be a pain in the ass. Especially when your receptors get clogged.

[ascendant]

great info guys. so i guess i'll have to start the hrt, then start taking arimidex in a couple weeks at .25mg EOD, and see a doc after doing it for a bit and have my estrogen levels checked? great info guys, especially you Ufa. i really appreciate it bro. i never did HRT or HGH before, so i gotta lot of questions so i know exactly what i'm getting myself into.

[Ufa]

great info guys. so i guess i'll have to start the hrt, then start taking arimidex in a couple weeks at .25mg EOD, and see a doc after doing it for a bit and have my estrogen levels checked? great info guys, especially you Ufa. i really appreciate it bro. i never did HRT or HGH before, so i gotta lot of questions so i know exactly what i'm getting myself into.

It's not all it's cracked up to be. Don't expect to much. GH takes forever,
The test shots are so small you will get little to no anabolic effect. You
got to add a little extra to get anabolic. You got to know how to reduce
your test levels so you get bigger shots. Good luck.

[IBdmfkr]

Ascendant, why at your age would you want to put yourself on HRT?

[ascendant]

Ascendant, why at your age would you want to put yourself on HRT?

well, although i have yet to get my own bodies test levels checked, my sex drive sucks when not on cycles. like i seriously don't want sex at all most the time, maybe once a week if that. got like that over the past couple years.

also, there are quite a few health benefits when doing HRT that i'm interested in. i know two people from my gym i work at that do HRT (both do test and HGH) and both say that not only are they in great health (proven by regular bloodwork), but also feel better because of the HGH and test's mood-elevating effects.

there are many other reasons i'm interested in it as well, but a big part is i know my bodies test levels aren't nearly what they used to be when i was younger, and i miss that. i also don't see why we can't take an exogenous source to get those levels back to where they used to be. after all, the majority of studies done on HRT indicate it can be very beneficial when properly administered and monitored. trust me, it's something i thought a lot about and have done a lot of research on and after all that, i just think it's best for me.