cutting cycles

**jf18t** · 01-26-2007, 05:47 PM

im half way my 1 st cycle wich is:

week1-6 Eq at 400 mg/week
week1-6 Sus at 500 mg/week
week7-12 Deca at 400mg/week
week 7-13 test e at 500mg/week

First question:should my cutting cycle be included after my pct or before(pretty sure its after but just asking)

Second question:For a first cutting cycle which of these compound would provide me the cut of a lifetime(diet included)........ tren a,masteron and test prop or tren a,winstrol,test prop......... i ve heard eq can be use too but i got nothing from it in my cycle but maybe because ive use it in a bulk cycle.......other idea are welcome

stat 6ft1, 225 pounds, 12 % bf ive gained so far 25 pounds and my six pack is gone lolololol

**pavlenko** · 01-26-2007, 05:50 PM

eq should be ran minimum of 12 weeks and the same for deca, the cycle you have above is no good partna

**Bigmax** · 01-26-2007, 05:50 PM

test prop and mast,Prop and tren,Prop and winny...are all fine for cutting but as you said...DIET...there is the key...take any of those cycles on bad diet and you're pissing in the wind.By the way that cycle you have layed out(I guess you're on it now) is horrible.

**2.minutes** · 01-26-2007, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by jf18t

im half way my 1 st cycle wich is:

week1-6 Eq at 400 mg/week eq should be run atleast 12 wks to see the full effect
week1-6 Sus at 500 mg/weekwhy running sus just for 6 wks??
week7-12 Deca at 400mg/week why not running deca from the beginning?
week 7-13 test e at 500mg/week why the test enan here?? u already got the sus
First question:should my cutting cycle be included after my pct or before(pretty sure its after but just asking)

Second question:For a first cutting cycle which of these compound would provide me the cut of a lifetime(diet included)........ tren a,masteron and test prop or tren a,winstrol,test prop......... i ve heard eq can be use too but i got nothing from it in my cycle but maybe because ive use it in a bulk cycle.......other idea are welcome

stat 6ft1, 225 pounds, 12 % bf ive gained so far 25 pounds and my six pack is gone lolololol

in bold

**jf18t** · 01-26-2007, 05:56 PM

horrible but gained 25 pounds in 7 week lolololol and im not asking to judge my present cycle read carefully........

**Bigmax** · 01-26-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by jf18t

horrible but gained 25 pounds in 7 week lolololol and im not asking to judge my present cycle read carefully........

That means nothing bro...I'm not pissing on what you think is good progress but gaining 25 pounds in 7 weeks means nothing thats a mix of water and fat and maybe some muscle.. ...talk to me when you finish the cycle and tell me how much you kept...till then keep researching...again bro no offense to you..

**Jason865** · 01-26-2007, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by pavlenko

eq should be ran minimum of 12 weeks and the same for deca, the cycle you have above is no good partna

Internet myth that EQ must be run 12+ weeks. 8+ is enough to get great gains.

**Bigmax** · 01-26-2007, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jason865

Internet myth that EQ must be run 12+ weeks. 8+ is enough to get great gains.

NO,more personal experiences bro..

**Jason865** · 01-26-2007, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

NO,more personal experiences bro..

Well my close to 30 years experiance says you are wrong. The more is better idea is not a good way to go. I disagree with both of you in a very big way.

**Bigmax** · 01-26-2007, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Jason865

Well my close to 30 years experiance says you are wrong. The more is better idea is not a good way to go. I disagree with both of you in a very big way.

you have the right to disagree bro...And in very big way...However unless thats you in the avvy or have pics to back up that 30yr experience I'll stick to my experience in telling you and everyone else here that 8 weeks for EQ wasnt enuff for me and as many posts as Ive read it is agreed with..

**elitetky** · 01-26-2007, 06:32 PM

doesnt look good on your layout

because it all doesnt match very well . the compound you are using are 3 long ester , 1 short ester ?

drop the sustano - because you need to inject EOD

Boost the Test E to 750mg or 1000mg - you are too big you need more test

Deca 400mg & Eq 400mg - looks not bad if i were you i would boost to 600mg for both

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**elitetky** · 01-26-2007, 06:33 PM

doesnt look good on your layout

because it all doesnt match very well . the compound you are using are 3 long ester , 1 short ester ?

drop the sustano - because you need to inject EOD

Boost the Test E to 750mg or 1000mg - you are too big you need more test

Deca 400mg & Eq 400mg - looks not bad if i were you i would boost to 600mg for both

**Jason865** · 01-26-2007, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

you have the right to disagree bro...And in very big way...However unless thats you in the avvy or have pics to back up that 30yr experience I'll stick to my experience in telling you and everyone else here that 8 weeks for EQ wasnt enuff for me and as many posts as Ive read it is agreed with..

We can have a penis measuring contest if that's what you want, but it is just a waste of time IMO. I can say I benched 555 raw at 255, and had cold 20 1/8 inch upper arms with no GH or slin use ever and a 34 waist at the same time but who really cares???.....I sure do not. I disagree with you and that is that.

**jf18t** · 01-26-2007, 06:34 PM

no way eq takes 12 week and more to see results by the 6th week you should have seen results otherwise dont use it......

**Snrf** · 01-26-2007, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Jason865

We can have a penis measuring contest if that's what you want, but it is just a waste of time IMO. I can say I raw benched 555 raw at 255, and had cold 20 1/8 iinch upper arms with no GH or slin use ever and a 34 waist at the same time but who really cares???.....I sure do not. I duisagree with you and that is that.

this is the 2nd time you've made some pretty extraordinary claims like this, and its the 2nd time I have requested pics of you.....

lets see em

**Random** · 01-26-2007, 06:37 PM

However unless thats you in the avvy or have pics to back up that 30yr experience I'll stick to my experience in telling you and everyone else here that 8 weeks for EQ wasnt enuff for me and as many posts as Ive read it is agreed with..

Of course thats not him, thats Danny Padilla.....and according to jason, everyones wrong lol...

**Jason865** · 01-26-2007, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

this is the 2nd time you've made some pretty extraordinary claims like this, and its the 2nd time I have requested pics of you.....

lets see em

I talk about my steroid use on the internet and am not stupid enough to post who I am.....I do not want to be charged with a crime.
And how hard is it to fake pics on the net????...not hard at all.

**jf18t** · 01-26-2007, 06:38 PM

eliteky its my first cycle why bump my test and deca

**Snrf** · 01-26-2007, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jason865

I talk about my steroid use on the internet and am not stupid enough to post who I am.....I do not want to be charged with a crime.
And how hard is it to fake pics on the net????...not hard at all.

hahahaha, nice try buddy. Blank out your face if you want, generally people who post fake pics on this site get caught out. Remember this site is the number 1 site for bodybuilders on the net, there arent many pics of guys with 20 1/8 inch arms out there that won't have been viewed by someone before....

**Bigmax** · 01-26-2007, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Jason865

We can have a penis measuring contest if that's what you want, but it is just a waste of time IMO. I can say I benched 555 raw at 255, and had cold 20 1/8 inch upper arms with no GH or slin use ever and a 34 waist at the same time but who really cares???.....I sure do not. I disagree with you and that is that.

that has nothing to do with the posts or this thread my friend so I suggest you refrain from talk like that...you said you disagreed and I said thats your right...I couldnt care less...but you have 30 yeras under your belt so let us see what you have to show for it...Thats me in the avvy not bad for 14 years...trust me its not faked...

**2.minutes** · 01-26-2007, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

that has nothing to do with the posts or this thread my friend so I suggest you refrain from talk like that...you said you disagreed and I said thats your right...I couldnt care less...but you have 30 yeras under your belt so let us see what you have to show for it...Thats me in the avvy not bad for 14 years...trust me its not faked...

liar thats you long time ago, where is the updated pic

?? j/k bro

**Bigmax** · 01-26-2007, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by jf18t

eliteky its my first cycle why bump my test and deca

No need to bump up the compounds imo...

**Bigmax** · 01-26-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by 2.minutes

liar thats you long time ago, where is the updated pic

?? j/k bro

LOL..you're right I have gained 12 pounds since then...

**Jason865** · 01-26-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

that has nothing to do with the posts or this thread my friend so I suggest you refrain from talk like that...you said you disagreed and I said thats your right...I couldnt care less...but you have 30 yeras under your belt so let us see what you have to show for it...Thats me in the avvy not bad for 14 years...trust me its not faked...

If that is you without GH, slin and igf-1 use then it is good development, a bit bloted and smooth but decient size. If it is with more than just steroid use it is not impressive at all. Not flaming you just my "opinion".

Also I do not use gear anymore but would be happy to post some pics when my cut is over. I will still be about 230 or so.

**jf18t** · 01-26-2007, 06:46 PM

ill put some picture no problem i find it a great idea..............ive got a big........................11 months under my belt

**Snrf** · 01-26-2007, 06:49 PM

dude bigmax is like 280 pounds, i don't care if he's ingesting slin/gh/igf by the truckload thats massive....and i wish i was that "bloted and smooth". you sure talk a lot of shit for someone who won't post a pic

**Jason865** · 01-26-2007, 07:08 PM

Like I said I will post pics at the end of my cut, at a natural 230-235, I will do the same pose as his avvy and you can make your decision on who knows more about EQ....( my dad can beat up your dad) this is just to silly.

Next I would like to see pics VS Mike Boyle to prove who is more knowledgeable about training....ROFL. Like I said a silly ***** ********* contest.

**Bigmax** · 01-26-2007, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

dude bigmax is like 280 pounds, i don't care if he's ingesting slin/gh/igf by the truckload thats massive....and i wish i was that "bloted and smooth". you sure talk a lot of shit for someone who won't post a pic

Thank you my friend...Thats on a bulk by the way..And you're right on the way he's talking but lets stay above his level...Lets have decent conversation and leave him out of it...Sir till you show anybody what you have SSHHH!!!!..

**Halfcenturian** · 01-26-2007, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Jason865

Well my close to 30 years experiance says you are wrong. The more is better idea is not a good way to go. I disagree with both of you in a very big way.

HEY! MR. ATTITUDE! BACK OFF!

YOU ARE TAKING TOO MUCH ASSHOLE-DERONE !!!

GO AWAY, NEG-A-BOY! .

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