Zero estrogen stacks?

**TxPumpjack** · 01-28-2007, 05:03 AM

Whats up guys. I gotta question. I did a few cycles a few years ago when I was in college and had severe problems with gyno both times. I know that some people have problems with it and I am one of them. Since then I have gotten married and didn't throw the weights around for about a year (its her fault). I've been back in the gym for a little over a year now. What I was wondering is what is a good non-aromitizing stack? I'm 6ft 3, about 250lbs. My body fat is around 17%. I do have a slight belly but I carry my weight very well, my entire life people have always thought I am 20-30lbs lighter. I would like to get on more of a cutting cycle but one that I could get some quality mass gains with to. Also, would my libido be affected since there is not test involved? If at all possible I would like to prevent that. Any reccommendations would greatly be appreciated. Oh yeah, I would like to possibly use some mast in the cycle. What do you guys think?

**vitor** · 01-28-2007, 05:39 AM

I did Primobolan and winstrol one time with good results. Roughly a gram of each every week.

But preventing gyno is easy even with aromatasing compunds, yust get an aromatase inhibitor and Serm and run it all the way through.

You could use Proviron to keep libido up if you decide not to use Test.

**TxPumpjack** · 01-29-2007, 03:11 AM

Thanks for the reply. Right now I can get my hands on enough Test Cyp and Eq to run both at 500mg for 12 weeks. What could I throw in the mix to lose some fat as well? I can get just about anything. Clen is avaliable and so is masteron , etc. What do you guys think? It has been a while since I have cycled and I was a dumbass in college when it came down to PCT. I have done my research and won't neglect it this time so I won't have to worry about gyno. Thanks

**vitor** · 01-29-2007, 05:00 AM

So if youre going to do a cutting cycle, diet is the key.
With test cyp and Eq(aromatasing compounds) you want to use an AI too(for gyno protection) but also, decreasing estrogen levels will also make it easier to lose bodyfat. Letrozolole is the best, Aromasin is greate too.

I suggest you use Test cyp 500mg ew and Masteron 50mg a/day for your cycle, (ditch the eq.) Masteron has anti-estrogenic activity as well.
Clen isnt really needed, and it isnt good for the heart ideer, yust focus on diet and training imho.

**TxPumpjack** · 01-29-2007, 05:58 AM

I will def look into that. I appreciate it

**TxPumpjack** · 01-30-2007, 04:43 AM

Alright..I'm going with the test cyp at 500mg for 12wks and mast at 50mg ed for 12 wks. Should I take the cyp all at once or split it up every 4 days or so at 250mg? Also if I take letro everyday will it help me burn more bf, and will it mess with my libido even though I will be on cyp? Thanks