New cycle starting soon imput needed...

[antterra1]

ok well, this will be my 2nd cycle since last yr. past cycles have been test e deca, n sus. Im looking to drop some BF and add some lean mass. im thinking of doing a dbol / test e / tren a cycle stacking it up..

wk 1- 4 dbol 30mg ed
wk 1-12 test e 100mg eod or 200mg e3d
this is where i have my quest how should i run the tren a..
put it in the beg or the end of the cycle?

wk 5-12 tren a 50mg eod (?)

or run the test n tren toghter eod test 100mg + tren 50mg eod for the full 12 wks?

got my pct and letro on hand fyi...

[2.minutes]

whats your states?

[Bigmax]

whats your states?

Bro,its STATS...you did it on another thread...

[2.minutes]

Bro,its STATS...you did it on another thread...

sorry bro, english is not my 1st langauge oki back to the topic

whats ur STATS ??

[kaberle_15]

I wouldn't suggest tren for a second cycle.

Stick with test, dbol

500mg/test per week 1-12
40mg/dbol ed 1-4

[antterra1]

blah..5'9 22yrol 200lbs 18%bf-+ looking to gain lean mass while loosing the bf

fyi already have my cycle so its pretty much how i am going to run everything

[perfectbeast2001]

gaining lean mass while cutting, good luck!
Sounds like you need to run a cut, that will be down to diet not AS. All the AS will do is help you keep hold of the muscle you have while you are in calorie defecit. I would not add tren, in fact I wouldn't add Dbol either. Just run the test with a decent AI to retain that muscle and get your diet on point for cutting.

[antterra1]

i hear what you mean...maybe i said it wrong tho. can i add the tren in later on in my cycle sayyyy wk 6? so bulk then cut?

[perfectbeast2001]

if your diet is set up to bulk then to cut then yes that is fine, the AS wont do it for you. Tren will help A LITTLE with fatloss but nothing major.

[antterra1]

well, yes i relize that. good diet+cardio= fatloss. but as far as running the tren would it benfit in the first half or the end of the cycle?

[perfectbeast2001]

cycle end if you are planning on cutting during the latter part of the cycle.

[GHO5T]

ok well, this will be my 2nd cycle since last yr. past cycles have been test e deca, n sus. Im looking to drop some BF and add some lean mass. im thinking of doing a dbol / test e / tren a cycle stacking it up..

wk 1- 4 dbol 30mg ed
wk 1-12 test e 100mg eod or 200mg e3d
this is where i have my quest how should i run the tren a..
put it in the beg or the end of the cycle?

wk 5-12 tren a 50mg eod (?)

or run the test n tren toghter eod test 100mg + tren 50mg eod for the full 12 wks?

got my pct and letro on hand fyi...

IMO since your running test e it isnt necessary to shoot eod. Twice a week should suffice and should keep levels stable. 250mg injections twice a week.

IMO you need to decide whether you solely want to cut or bulk, you will be better in the long run. IMO the whole lose BF and add lean mass is a waste of time, and you dont get as much out of the cycle.

However if you decide to cut, i would opt for a faster acting test, such as prop. Running test e during a cutting phase, could result in you losing muscle mass in the first couple weeks, while you wait for the long ester to kick in.

[GHO5T]

blah..5'9 22yrol 200lbs 18%bf-+ looking to gain lean mass while loosing the bf

fyi already have my cycle so its pretty much how i am going to run everything

Not very smart, IMO you should of proposed a cycle ahead of time for the bros to critique, and when everything was set then you should have ordered everything.

Since its only your 2nd cycle, and you dont seem to have much knowledge of some compounds, it isnt too smart to order and than ask how to run things.

[antterra1]

yes I relize that..but i was pressed on time with my supplyer. so i did some reaserch and decied to go for what i got...it seems like i will go for the dbol test and maybe add the tren at the end of the cycle...