Important Cycle Query ?

[BGIZZLE8629]

This is a multi-question thread.

I have been planning on doing a cycle of Test Cyp. @500mg/wk for 12 weeks for some time now....... But have had a lot (and I mean a lot) or set backs/delays. Anyways, I am 6', 190lbs (like 87 or 88kg) Not really sure about b/f %-getting that looked at shortly (will let you know). Been lifting for about 2.5 years (1 year-extremely serious). DIET IS IN CHECK.

Anyway, the cycle I will be doing is:

Test Cyp. 500mg/wk: 12wks
Arimidex: .25/ed throughout (possibly start taking 2 wks prior to cycle)
Finasteride: ? ed throughout
HCG: 250-500iu/e5thd in wks 6-7 + 10-11
Test Propionate 125mg/eod in wks 13-14

PCT
Clomid: wks 15-18 - 300/day 1, 100/days 2-11, 50/days 12-25
Nolvadex: 20mg/ed wks 15-18
Proviron: 25-50mg/ed wks 15-18

Or

wk 15 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid Every Day
wk 16 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day
wk 17 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day

My Questions are as follows:
1) How does my cycle look?
2) Do I need to change anything at all in cycle?
3) What would be the best dosage for Finasteride during cycle?
4) Would Nolva, Proviron, or Femara (Letrozole) be better to incorporate into my cycle rather than Arimidex? If using only Arimidex, then should I take ed or eod?
4a.) Should I take any cholesterol medication during cycle(since the use of an AI like Letro or Arimidex suppresses good cholesterol levels)??
5) Is the Proviron alright for PCT or should it also be incorporated into the cycle throughout??
6) Which PCT looks better?
7) Approximately when should I incorporate the Prop? After last Cyp. injection in week 12 or wait til wk 13?
8) How long after last Prop. Inj. (if only injecting for 2wks) should I start PCT? (Prop. half life-3 days, Cyp. half life-18days)
8a.) Also, should I base my Prop. dosage on how much "Active Steroid" it contains?? ( I believe prop. is around 83mg per 100 while Cyp. is 70 or so) or does that matter??
9) It is best to do bloodwork before the start of cycle, in middle (wk 7), and at conclusion of PCT. Correct??

If anybody would be able to answer my questions, I would greatly appreciate it as it would obviously be very valuable to my gains and my health.

Thanks again.

[BGIZZLE8629]

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[spywizard]

i assume this is your 1st cycle???

[BGIZZLE8629]

i assume this is your 1st cycle???

Yes, this is my first cycle. I forgot to mention that. My bad

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[BG]

No real need for HCG during, alot of different chemicals for first time so I'de save it for PCT. Your first cycle you want to keep basic as possible so you know what compound is giving you a problem if one should occur.

[BGIZZLE8629]

No real need for HCG during, alot of different chemicals for first time so I'de save it for PCT. Your first cycle you want to keep basic as possible so you know what compound is giving you a problem if one should occur.

I take it, you mean the Proviron right? Which PCT do you think looks better?? Thanks for the feeback.

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[bigrose]

This is a multi-question thread.

I have been planning on doing a cycle of Test Cyp. @500mg/wk for 12 weeks for some time now....... But have had a lot (and I mean a lot) or set backs/delays. Anyways, I am 6', 190lbs (like 87 or 88kg) Not really sure about b/f %-getting that looked at shortly (will let you know). Been lifting for about 2.5 years (1 year-extremely serious). DIET IS IN CHECK.

Anyway, the cycle I will be doing is:

Test Cyp. 500mg/wk: 12wks
Arimidex: .25/ed throughout (possibly start taking 2 wks prior to cycle)
Finasteride: ? ed throughout
HCG: 250-500iu/e5thd in wks 6-7 + 10-11
Test Propionate 125mg/eod in wks 13-14

PCT
Clomid: wks 15-18 - 300/day 1, 100/days 2-11, 50/days 12-25
Nolvadex: 20mg/ed wks 15-18
Proviron: 25-50mg/ed wks 15-18

Or

wk 15 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid Every Day
wk 16 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day
wk 17 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day

My Questions are as follows:
1) How does my cycle look? Good first cycle. Lose the HCG. It isn't necessary.
2) Do I need to change anything at all in cycle?
3) What would be the best dosage for Finasteride during cycle? none.
4) Would Nolva, Proviron, or Femara (Letrozole) be better to incorporate into my cycle rather than Arimidex? If using only Arimidex, then should I take ed or eod? I would take the proviron throughout the cycle and pct. I love proviron. Definetly one of my favorites. If you want to take it with the arimidex, take the arimidex at .5 or 1mg eod. That should be enough for most anybody. Have the femera on hand just in case, but I doubt you'll need it.
4a.) Should I take any cholesterol medication during cycle(since the use of an AI like Letro or Arimidex suppresses good cholesterol levels)??IMO, not necessary.
5) Is the Proviron alright for PCT or should it also be incorporated into the cycle throughout??See above.
6) Which PCT looks better?I like the first one. I have done a similar PCT in the past and it has always worked great.
7) Approximately when should I incorporate the Prop? After last Cyp. injection in week 12 or wait til wk 13?I take prop in a different way coming off cycle. For 3 injections, starting 3 days after my last cyp injection, I take 100mg of prop every 3 day. Then, also for 3 injections, I take 50mg of prop every 3 days. My clomid starts 3 days after my last prop injection. I use a total of 6 prop injections and a total of 450mg of prop. I think that helps my body reacclimate a little better to coming off cycle.
8) How long after last Prop. Inj. (if only injecting for 2wks) should I start PCT? (Prop. half life-3 days, Cyp. half life-18days)See above.
8a.) Also, should I base my Prop. dosage on how much "Active Steroid" it contains?? ( I believe prop. is around 83mg per 100 while Cyp. is 70 or so) or does that matter??Doesn't matter.
9) It is best to do bloodwork before the start of cycle, in middle (wk 7), and at conclusion of PCT. Correct??I would do bloodwork before and after the cycle. The before will give you a good natural baseline and the after will show you what effects, if any, the cycle had on anything.

If anybody would be able to answer my questions, I would greatly appreciate it as it would obviously be very valuable to my gains and my health.

Thanks again.

Good luck, bro. The cycle looks good and well thought out. If you absolutely feel you need to add the finasteride in there, I wouldn't do more than 1 or 1.5mg/day. If you get proscar, break the tab into 4 pieces and take one daily throughout the cycle and pct.

[BGIZZLE8629]

7) "I take prop in a different way coming off cycle. For 3 injections, starting 3 days after my last cyp injection, I take 100mg of prop every 3 day. Then, also for 3 injections, I take 50mg of prop every 3 days. My clomid starts 3 days after my last prop injection. I use a total of 6 prop injections and a total of 450mg of prop. I think that helps my body reacclimate a little better to coming off cycle."

That is definitely a different way of going about it.... It seems like it may be rather effective. Im just curious as to how you came up with that method though?? It seems as if it would work in a way but, wouldn't you want to keep your testosterone up to the levels that they were at when taking the cyp?

Do the Prop. inj. hurt more than other injections or what? Some people say they do, and some say that they dont.........

Yea, I will take the Finastride b/c I already have it on hand... I think I may take the Arimidex at about .25mg ed or eod. I know that I am going to be taking it for sure though.

I was thinking about taking the Proviron @50mg/ed starting either the day of first prop inj. or the day after my last prop inj. Do you have any other suggestion times as to when to throw in the Proviron? I am not going to take it throughout the cycle though.

I only might throw in the HCG b/c I was shut down pretty bad from taking some underdosed winny and tren for about 5 or 6 wks so if I am going to be taking the TEST CYP for 12wks I know I will have some serious atrophy.

Thanks for your advice. I appreciate it.

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[bigrose]

Sorry about the delay, man. I've had alot going on.

A buddy of mine who is a pharmacist helped me with the prop timing. We agree that it helps our body ramp up our natural test production and lets the exogenous test taper off. I think it works great.

Some prop hurts, it depends on the brand and the quality/purity. The prop I use has never hurt at all. If pain is a problem, get something to cut it with like sterile oil or B12.

I would start the proviron as soon as possible, so with your first prop shot.

Did you start yet? How do you like everything?

[BGIZZLE8629]

n/p. thats cool. I think I will do my prop inj. like you do yours, but I ONLY HAVE 400mg of Prop. to work with.... How do you suggest I go about a procedure like yours??

Actually I havent started yet. I think I am going to wait until the end of this quarter. So, it will be close to June when I start.

I also decided to just do an 8wk cycle instead of 12....Meaning that it will actually be like a 10wk cycle in a way--but only 8wks of prop. Do you think that I should do at least 10wks of prop?? Thanks for the info.

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