My First Cycle Ever

[Mice]

Hi all,

Here's my first cycle ever, I would like some advices on it...

W1 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg // Diana 30mg
W2 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg // Diana 30mg
W3 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg // Diana 40mg
W4 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg // Diana 40mg
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W5 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg
W6 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg
W7 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg
W8 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg
W9 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg
W10 ALL-TEST 350mg // Deca 200mg
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W11 HCG 1500ui // Clenbu (0.04/0.04/0.04/0.08/0.08/0.08/0.12)
W12 HCG 1500ui // Clenbu (0.12/0.12/0.16/0.16/0.16/0.12/0.12) // Clomid (2/D)
W13 Clomid (1/D) // Clenbu (0.12/0.08/0.08/0.08/0.04/0.04/0.04)

I'm thinking about adding some IGF1, is that a good idea or shall I keep it for my 2nd or 3rd cycle ?

Thanks for any advice.

[Haro3]

1. i think deca is supposed to be stopped 2 weeks before the test and as a rule i think most members dont run it less than 10 weeks meaning u'd had to run ur test to 12 weeks.......this is just what i've noticed in my research

2. i think ur doses are low...from what i've gathered 200mg deca isnt very much and most recomend 400 as a starting dose...so i'd do 500 test 400 deca but thats me

3. most will say you dont need deca for first cycle....i see the reasoning and would say that from my experience with test e/dbol /winny cycle i'd only use 1 injectable for first go....but thats up to you

[Bill Bellamy]

the mg per week are pretty low and u may not want to stack three different compounds on your first cycle

[numbat]

^^^^ditto .. mayb 500 test e and sum primo er var if absolutely neccesarry..

[armbar83]

^^^^ditto .. mayb 500 test e and sum primo er var if absolutely neccesarry..

yah just run test e or cyp for a first 4-500mg/wk 10-12wks. no need to mess with igf, hcg or even deca or dbol on a first.

[Anaboxa34]

yah just run test e or cyp for a first 4-500mg/wk 10-12wks. no need to mess with igf, hcg or even deca or dbol on a first.

def agree, with 500 mg of test only you can expect to put on 15-25lbs
how much more do you think you could get from adding other compounds?
...but if you must take more then one drug use the d-bol to kickstart if you want to see quick results but save the deca and anything else for future cycles.

oh yea...make sure you put time into researching you pct too...best of luck man

[Mice]

The dianabol is used for a kickstart so I can see quick results, and the deca combined with the testo will help to gain weight, since the testo dose is pretty low.

[Haro3]

The dianabol is used for a kickstart so I can see quick results, and the deca combined with the testo will help to gain weight, since the testo dose is pretty low.

i think ur missing the point.....the deca is so low ur not gonna see any results from it. lets just say that 300 a week test + 200 a week deca gives you the same results as 500 a week test....why not just take 500 a week test...cuz i would be willing to bet 500 a week test e would yield as good if not better results than 300test +200 deca not to mention it would save you money i guarantee test is significantly cheaper than deca and it would solve the problem of 2 injectables in ur first cycle. if you wanna pack on a lot of weight quicker just bump up ur dbol dosage. but as usual i recomend blood work prior to and aft your cycle..

[LatinoPR]

Test @ 500mg/week...and proper pct...you should have good results,if diet and w/o program is in check..!!!















LPR.

[Mice]

i think ur missing the point.....the deca is so low ur not gonna see any results from it. lets just say that 300 a week test + 200 a week deca gives you the same results as 500 a week test....why not just take 500 a week test...cuz i would be willing to bet 500 a week test e would yield as good if not better results than 300test +200 deca not to mention it would save you money i guarantee test is significantly cheaper than deca and it would solve the problem of 2 injectables in ur first cycle. if you wanna pack on a lot of weight quicker just bump up ur dbol dosage. but as usual i recomend blood work prior to and aft your cycle..

I bought the deca and the test for the same price.

[beuleux]

Test cyp or enth min 400mg/pw for 12 weeks + pct. You are allready planning second and third cycles so it would be advisable to run a single compound for your first so you will know how your body reacts to it so when you stack additional compounds in the future you will know what gains/sides you get from each, also I agree with the others 200mg/pw deca wont do much anyways so save it for anohter cycle.

Assuming diet and training are in check... Stats would be nice.

[beuleux]

I bought the deca and the test for the same price.

That was iether expensive test or cheap deca

[reppedout1]

i dunno if i had to do it all over again i prolly would have added 400 mg deca to my first cycle.you see on ur first cycle ur weights will go up dramatically and ur body isn/t used to it putting u at great risk for injury,at least that is why i believe i am having some shoulder issues now.

[Mice]

That was iether expensive test or cheap deca

I bought it for *edited*

[armbar83]

I bought the deca and the test for the same price.

if your going to run it anyway why ask for advice?? save the deca for later...

I bought it for 80€

dont discuss prices on the board, you should edit your post

[beuleux]

I bought it for *Too much!*

Expensive test LOL

[ekeaz]

Edit your post for prices. But IMO just run 450-500mg of Test E for 10 to 12 weeks and for the first 4 weeks run 30mg of dbol everyday. For your first cycle you will make and with the right PCT keep solid gains. Good luck.

[armbar83]

Edit your post for prices. But IMO just run 450-500mg of Test E for 10 to 12 weeks and for the first 4 weeks run 30mg of dbol everyday. For your first cycle you will make and with the right PCT keep solid gains. Good luck.

*Bawk...Bawk*

[yenstrol]

do not use deca ur first cycle bro

[Mice]

Expensive test LOL

Its not a basic test E or C, its all-test 350mg/ml, so it's not that expensive...

[sirius67]

Edit your post for prices. But IMO just run 450-500mg of Test E for 10 to 12 weeks and for the first 4 weeks run 30mg of dbol everyday. For your first cycle you will make and with the right PCT keep solid gains. Good luck.

you r right, but you should say what is the best pct after this cycle

[Mice]

I've got a question, can I mix ALL-TEST 350mg with Test Cypio 200mg ?

[Haro3]

I've got a question, can I mix ALL-TEST 350mg with Test Cypio 200mg ?

why?
just run one or the other theres 0 point in running both of them

[Mice]

why?
just run one or the other theres 0 point in running both of them

you guys said 350mg is not enough, 350 x 2 = 700mg, a bit too much IMO...

[Haro3]

you guys said 350mg is not enough, 350 x 2 = 700mg, a bit too much IMO...

agreed but im confused are you asking if you can run 350mg enanthate + 200mg cyponate..? cuz if so theres no point in mixing esters just run 500 mg of one or the other either enanthate or cyp

[armbar83]

you guys said 350mg is not enough, 350 x 2 = 700mg, a bit too much IMO...

im not flamming but its your bad for buying the gear before having your cycle planned out. youve made it hard for people to give you help because your trying to incorporate these compounds youve already purchased into your cycle. just get some cyp or enanthate and run it as instructed. thats the consensus on here, not some cyp mixed with your all test or maybe some deca . otherwise just run your all test at 350 a week...

[MartyMcFly]

There are more than just increments for 1ml 2ml etc. You should be able to do math to get 500 mg/week. Even if it was test 294.

I did math for you split doses into two shots between .7 and .8 ml a shot.

[MartyMcFly]

I do not know about your all-test but if it has prop in it you need to inject EOD.

[Mice]

im not flamming but its your bad for buying the gear before having your cycle planned out. youve made it hard for people to give you help because your trying to incorporate these compounds youve already purchased into your cycle. just get some cyp or enanthate and run it as instructed. thats the consensus on here, not some cyp mixed with your all test or maybe some deca. otherwise just run your all test at 350 a week...

I was on a french board before coming there, since I'm french...
They advised me to run 200mg cyp with 250mg deca , before buying them, thats why I bought them once I got their advice...

Then I found this forum, and I noticed that it has a lot more people than the forum I was before...

[armbar83]

good luck with your cycle

[yenstrol]

dude just run the test for ur first one. listen to what armbar is tellin u.

[Dog-Slime]

Just run the test. You can use the d-bol as a kicker. I dont know why everyone is so damn hung up on 500mgs a test around here its not a magic number that if you go under you wont see gains, especially on a first cycle. You will see good gains off your 350. Just shoot a half cc on monday and a half cc on thursday. Save the deca and buy another bottle of it for your next cycle. You should really work on that pct I dunno what clomid 2/d and clomid 1/d is supposed to mean but you should definately take it for longer than two weeks.

[edgardo387]

Its not a basic test E or C, its all-test 350mg/ml, so it's not that expensive...

Sh!t wouldnt that shot hurt like hell???? 350mg/ml????